Precisely why it is imperative that global civil society must be seen to take a stance.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
<<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I discovered an interesting Blog by a Professor who specialises in Middle<br>
> East Studies on the failed Resolution:<br>
> <a href="http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12401&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Syriacomment+%28Syria+Comment%29" target="_blank">http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12401&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Syriacomment+%28Syria+Comment%29</a><br>
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</div>To me this is more evidence that Bill is correct that<br>
intergovernmental-ism is not the way forward in IG, and that CS<br>
(including the IGC) should resist at every opportunity.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
> <<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> More interesting developments in Syria as countries are warned by the<br>
>> Syrian Government:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/world/middleeast/syria-warns-countries-not-to-recognize-opposition.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/world/middleeast/syria-warns-countries-not-to-recognize-opposition.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto</a><br>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:49 PM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Andrea<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Andrea Glorioso wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> > Bill,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > but doesn't this kind of horse trading already take place anyway, now<br>
>>> > that the Internet is seen as a strategic component of geopolitical<br>
>>> > strategies by the "heavy weights" (and increasingly, by mid- and light<br>
>>> > weights, too)?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Not sure, I guess it would depend how we specify what we're talking<br>
>>> about. Can you give me examples of governments engaging in geopolitical<br>
>>> horse trading across distinct issue-areas in ways that have impacted global<br>
>>> IG, like votes on sanctions or agricultural trade or whatever being traded<br>
>>> for votes on Internet names, numbers, standards, etc? And whether or not we<br>
>>> can identify some, the next question is, would centralizing global IG under<br>
>>> a UN intergovernmental body increase the propensity to engage in this,<br>
>>> reduce it, or have no impact either way? I believe it would increase it<br>
>>> significantly, but would be interested in hearing the counter-argument.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bill<br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 10/9/11, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >>> Also see the abstentions when reading the failed resolution and it is<br>
>>> >>> the<br>
>>> >>> message that it sends which is far more pronounced and profound.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> including Brazil, India, and South Africa, which also opposed UN<br>
>>> >> sanctions<br>
>>> >> on Iran's "peaceful nuclear program" when the government there was<br>
>>> >> busy<br>
>>> >> hunting down and executing protesters. But want a new UN body to<br>
>>> >> develop<br>
>>> >> global Internet policies and "integrate and oversee the bodies<br>
>>> >> responsible<br>
>>> >> for technical and operational functioning of the Internet, including<br>
>>> >> global<br>
>>> >> standards setting." Then we can have intergovernmental horse trading<br>
>>> >> over<br>
>>> >> all aspects of global IG with Russia, China, et al linking voting<br>
>>> >> deals on<br>
>>> >> issues like their proposed code of conduct for acceptable Internet<br>
>>> >> speech,<br>
>>> >> TLDs, address assignments, standards, etc. to deals on sanctions and<br>
>>> >> other<br>
>>> >> geopolitical items. That should help ensure a stable and open<br>
>>> >> Internet…<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Bill<br>
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