[governance] Re: Syria

[McTim]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> I discovered an interesting Blog by a Professor who specialises in Middle
> East Studies on the failed Resolution:
> http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12401&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Syriacomment+%28Syria+Comment%29


To me this is more evidence that Bill is correct that
intergovernmental-ism is not the way forward in IG, and that CS
(including the IGC) should resist at every opportunity.

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McTim
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>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> More interesting developments in Syria as countries are warned by the
>> Syrian Government:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/world/middleeast/syria-warns-countries-not-to-recognize-opposition.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:49 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrea
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
>>>
>>> > Bill,
>>> >
>>> > but doesn't this kind of horse trading already take place anyway, now
>>> > that the Internet is seen as a strategic component of geopolitical
>>> > strategies by the "heavy weights" (and increasingly, by mid- and light
>>> > weights, too)?
>>>
>>> Not sure, I guess it would depend how we specify what we're talking
>>> about.  Can you give me examples of governments engaging in geopolitical
>>> horse trading across distinct issue-areas in ways that have impacted global
>>> IG, like votes on sanctions or agricultural trade or whatever being traded
>>> for votes on Internet names, numbers, standards, etc?  And whether or not we
>>> can identify some, the next question is, would centralizing global IG under
>>> a UN intergovernmental body increase the propensity to engage in this,
>>> reduce it, or have no impact either way?  I believe it would increase it
>>> significantly, but would be interested in hearing the counter-argument.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 10/9/11, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>>> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Also see the abstentions when reading the failed resolution and it is
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> message that it sends which is far more pronounced and profound.
>>> >>
>>> >> including Brazil, India, and South Africa, which also opposed UN
>>> >> sanctions
>>> >> on Iran's "peaceful nuclear program" when the government there was
>>> >> busy
>>> >> hunting down and executing protesters.  But want a new UN body to
>>> >> develop
>>> >> global Internet policies and "integrate and oversee the bodies
>>> >> responsible
>>> >> for technical and operational functioning of the Internet, including
>>> >> global
>>> >> standards setting."  Then we can have intergovernmental horse trading
>>> >> over
>>> >> all aspects of global IG with Russia, China, et al linking voting
>>> >> deals on
>>> >> issues like their proposed code of conduct for acceptable Internet
>>> >> speech,
>>> >> TLDs, address assignments, standards, etc. to deals on sanctions and
>>> >> other
>>> >> geopolitical items.  That should help ensure a stable and open
>>> >> Internet…
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill
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