[governance] Help from MAG colleagues

[Michael Gurstein]

If there were clearer structures of accountability within CS then it would
be a lot easier to find/advocate ways for broadening the basis for
participation to include under-represented groups... So long as CS is an
amorphous group without clear external linkages for accountability purposes
that makes linking into various grassroots groups for example, rather more
difficult since who is to link with who and on what basis.
 
Certain governments will represent certain interests at certain times, and
agreeing with Milton that there is no reason to assume that governments are
anymore reptesentative of their marginalized groups than anyone else except
that in democratic systems the marginalized do have a voice which on
occasion translates itself into policy including in relatively more esoteric
areas such as IG. A CS which is serious about ensuring voice for
marginalized groups would be actively seeking out allies among sympathetic
governments and equally using their linkages with these groups in particular
countries to lobby for appropriate policy positions on the part of those
governments in IG circles.
 
The case of Brazil (where I happen to be at the moment and in whose issues
around the Internet I am currently immersed) would seem to be the ideal
exemplar of the value of CS being more clear in its accountability
structures and having stronger links into local CS.
 
Mike 

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From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf
Of Milton L Mueller
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:34 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; parminder
Subject: RE: [governance] Help from MAG colleagues



Parminder:

When did you become such an adherent of the ideology of "stakeholderism"? I
thought you were healthily critical of it. One of the key problems with
MSism is that there are no clear boundaries between stakeholder groups, esp
in civil society, and the process of selecting "representatives" of such
groups is fraught with opportunities for manipulation. The claim, for
example, that marginalized people in developing countries are represented by
their governments, whose policies are often the cause of their lack of
resources and marginalization, needs to be questioned. 

--MM

 

 

It is an officially stated position, especially in varoius MAG reforms
discussions, that selection is stakeholder group based. The current
discussion here in the WG on IGF improvements is on increasing
'representation' of under represented groups, including developing
countries. In this context, contesting stakeholder group or constituency
basis of membership of the MAG makes a discussion on improving
representation of marginalized group quite meaningless. That is my problem,
coming from being situated in the middle of such a discussion here in the
WG, which triggered my response. I am sorry that the term offended you. It
was used in the sense of a 'good imagined thing that doesnt happen in
reality' and not meant specifically for what you said but for the general
'just representing oneself' proposition often made in this kind of a
discussion.

Parminder 





jeanette 




The member list is here: 

http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/406-mag-2010 

jeanette 


and the division between developing and developed 



countries? 

That would be much appreciated 

Marilia 
-- 
Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade 
FGV Direito Rio 

Center for Technology and Society 
Getulio Vargas Foundation 
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil 

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