[governance] a good read

[Mawaki Chango]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Meryem Marzouki <meryem at marzouki.info>wrote:

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>  ...
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> ...life is hard ...for all of us;))
>

It sure is! ;)

I guess mine is a sort of triangulation between Internet and public policy,
the sub-items defining substantive topics or sets of issues pertaining to
the former (internet) to the extent that they intersect with the latter
(public policy concerns).
Well, until further notice...

Mawaki


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> Meryem
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>
> Mawaki
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> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
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>> ICANN, a private non-profit in California, does "public policy"?
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>>
>> On 09/22/2010 05:38 PM, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that "Internet governance" is probably inappropriate as it leads
>>> to many (largely encouraged) ambiguities, but I also think "Internet
>>> public policy" doesn't capture the complexity of what is meant - for
>>> better or for worse - by "Internet governance", especially in the global
>>> context.
>>> I attended this workshop co-organized by IISD at IGF and it was clear to
>>> me that both IISD and the invited speakers at this workshop still needs
>>> to understand what we are talking about, and who's involved in the field.
>>> Proposing to use the term "Internet public policy" in this context
>>> attests for the misunderstanding. One cannot simply transpose the
>>> 'public' and 'public policy' concepts that are defined in a national,
>>> sovereign, regalian context, to a transnational, largely privately
>>> ordered, context. This has nothing to do with the need for policies
>>> oriented towards the general interest or the public interest: it is an
>>> issue of how to define the polity in this new context. I'm always
>>> puzzled at some people's easy speak of 'transnational democracy':
>>> transnational, I understand what this means; powers, I see where they
>>> are and even how they transform and recompose; but where the hell is the
>>> demos?! "We, the not so happy few"?
>>> We should be more careful with concepts.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Meryem
>>>
>>> Le 22 sept. 10 à 21:59, McTim a écrit :
>>>
>>> FYI:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf
>>>>
>>>> For those getting tired of the term "Internet Governance" (like me)
>>>> please see bottom of page 6:
>>>>
>>>> "The term “Internet governance” has been widely used since the World
>>>> Summit on the Information Society to describe not just the technical
>>>> management and coordination of the Internet itself (which is sometimes
>>>> called “narrow Internet governance”), but also the
>>>> relationship between the Internet and mainstream public policy issues
>>>> that are affected by it (sometimes called “broad Internet
>>>> governance”). Both of these types of issues are discussed,
>>>> for example, in the Internet Governance Forum.
>>>> IISD believes that the use of the term “Internet governance” for this
>>>> wide range of issues is increasingly inappropriate, particularly where
>>>> issues fall primarily in other public policy arenas. IISD therefore
>>>> prefers to use the term “Internet public policy” for this wider range
>>>> of issues"
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> McTim
>>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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