[governance] a good read

[Meryem Marzouki]

Le 22 sept. 10 à 23:07, Mawaki Chango a écrit :

> My personal compromise so far (eg, when I introduce myself to an  
> academic audience not necessarily familiar with the issues we're  
> dealing with here and in a few other arenas) is to say my research  
> field is "Internet *and* Public policy"

Hearing this, I would thus expect you to deal with, inter alia, e- 
government issues or any other public policy/administration enforced/ 
conducted through the Internet. However, you would certainly agree  
that they don't fall under "Internet governance".

> sometimes adding Internet governance (narrow sense)

Which, up to now, largely remain private policies, whatever is their  
*impact on* the general public

> and Digital identity as sub-items.

Is digital identity a policy? And if so, is it a public policy?

>  May not be perfect but...

...life is hard ...for all of us;))

Meryem

>
> Mawaki
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>  
> wrote:
> ICANN, a private non-profit in California, does "public policy"?
>
> --c.a.
>
>
> On 09/22/2010 05:38 PM, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
> I agree that "Internet governance" is probably inappropriate as it  
> leads
> to many (largely encouraged) ambiguities, but I also think "Internet
> public policy" doesn't capture the complexity of what is meant - for
> better or for worse - by "Internet governance", especially in the  
> global
> context.
> I attended this workshop co-organized by IISD at IGF and it was  
> clear to
> me that both IISD and the invited speakers at this workshop still  
> needs
> to understand what we are talking about, and who's involved in the  
> field.
> Proposing to use the term "Internet public policy" in this context
> attests for the misunderstanding. One cannot simply transpose the
> 'public' and 'public policy' concepts that are defined in a national,
> sovereign, regalian context, to a transnational, largely privately
> ordered, context. This has nothing to do with the need for policies
> oriented towards the general interest or the public interest: it is an
> issue of how to define the polity in this new context. I'm always
> puzzled at some people's easy speak of 'transnational democracy':
> transnational, I understand what this means; powers, I see where they
> are and even how they transform and recompose; but where the hell  
> is the
> demos?! "We, the not so happy few"?
> We should be more careful with concepts.
>
> Best,
> Meryem
>
> Le 22 sept. 10 à 21:59, McTim a écrit :
>
> FYI:
>
> http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf
>
> For those getting tired of the term "Internet Governance" (like me)
> please see bottom of page 6:
>
> "The term “Internet governance” has been widely used since the World
> Summit on the Information Society to describe not just the technical
> management and coordination of the Internet itself (which is sometimes
> called “narrow Internet governance”), but also the
> relationship between the Internet and mainstream public policy issues
> that are affected by it (sometimes called “broad Internet
> governance”). Both of these types of issues are discussed,
> for example, in the Internet Governance Forum.
> IISD believes that the use of the term “Internet governance” for this
> wide range of issues is increasingly inappropriate, particularly where
> issues fall primarily in other public policy arenas. IISD therefore
> prefers to use the term “Internet public policy” for this wider range
> of issues"
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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