[governance] a good read

[Mawaki Chango]

My personal compromise so far (eg, when I introduce myself to an academic
audience not necessarily familiar with the issues we're dealing with here
and in a few other arenas) is to say my research field is "Internet *and*
Public policy" sometimes adding Internet governance (narrow sense) and
Digital identity as sub-items. May not be perfect but...

Mawaki

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> ICANN, a private non-profit in California, does "public policy"?
>
> --c.a.
>
>
> On 09/22/2010 05:38 PM, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>
>> I agree that "Internet governance" is probably inappropriate as it leads
>> to many (largely encouraged) ambiguities, but I also think "Internet
>> public policy" doesn't capture the complexity of what is meant - for
>> better or for worse - by "Internet governance", especially in the global
>> context.
>> I attended this workshop co-organized by IISD at IGF and it was clear to
>> me that both IISD and the invited speakers at this workshop still needs
>> to understand what we are talking about, and who's involved in the field.
>> Proposing to use the term "Internet public policy" in this context
>> attests for the misunderstanding. One cannot simply transpose the
>> 'public' and 'public policy' concepts that are defined in a national,
>> sovereign, regalian context, to a transnational, largely privately
>> ordered, context. This has nothing to do with the need for policies
>> oriented towards the general interest or the public interest: it is an
>> issue of how to define the polity in this new context. I'm always
>> puzzled at some people's easy speak of 'transnational democracy':
>> transnational, I understand what this means; powers, I see where they
>> are and even how they transform and recompose; but where the hell is the
>> demos?! "We, the not so happy few"?
>> We should be more careful with concepts.
>>
>> Best,
>> Meryem
>>
>> Le 22 sept. 10 à 21:59, McTim a écrit :
>>
>> FYI:
>>>
>>> http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf
>>>
>>> For those getting tired of the term "Internet Governance" (like me)
>>> please see bottom of page 6:
>>>
>>> "The term “Internet governance” has been widely used since the World
>>> Summit on the Information Society to describe not just the technical
>>> management and coordination of the Internet itself (which is sometimes
>>> called “narrow Internet governance”), but also the
>>> relationship between the Internet and mainstream public policy issues
>>> that are affected by it (sometimes called “broad Internet
>>> governance”). Both of these types of issues are discussed,
>>> for example, in the Internet Governance Forum.
>>> IISD believes that the use of the term “Internet governance” for this
>>> wide range of issues is increasingly inappropriate, particularly where
>>> issues fall primarily in other public policy arenas. IISD therefore
>>> prefers to use the term “Internet public policy” for this wider range
>>> of issues"
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> McTim
>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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