[governance] a good read

Wed Sep 22 22:01:35 EDT 2010

Dear All,

I prefer the term "Internet Governance" because it is all-encompassing
and the danger of shifting to Internet Public Policy is that there is
a subtle yet very real danger of removing the voice of the private
sector and civil society altogether and whilst all policies have to
consider the diverse spectrums such as technical, economic,
socio-cultural, political and legal, the fundamental difference is
that with a subject as extraterritorial in reach such as the Internet
Governance where you have jurisdictions who differ in terms of
political systems, political will, capacity to prioritise ICT, varying
degrees of harmonisation of policies, different layers of domestic law
and international law that affects its treatment of the rainbow of
issues that could surface with trading via the internet, or engaging
in telemedicine etc etc, it follows that you would need a name that
like an umbrella that fully captures the various dichotomies and
relational connotations that surface from our new global borderless
world.

The use of Internet Public Policy as a Term in my view is restrictive.

Warm Regards from windy Wellington, New Zealand,

Sala

On 9/23/10, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Meryem Marzouki
> <meryem at marzouki.info>wrote:
>
>>
>>  ...
>>
>> ...life is hard ...for all of us;))
>>
>
> It sure is! ;)
>
> I guess mine is a sort of triangulation between Internet and public policy,
> the sub-items defining substantive topics or sets of issues pertaining to
> the former (internet) to the extent that they intersect with the latter
> (public policy concerns).
> Well, until further notice...
>
> Mawaki
>
>
>>
>> Meryem
>>
>>
>> Mawaki
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> ICANN, a private non-profit in California, does "public policy"?
>>>
>>> --c.a.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/22/2010 05:38 PM, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that "Internet governance" is probably inappropriate as it leads
>>>> to many (largely encouraged) ambiguities, but I also think "Internet
>>>> public policy" doesn't capture the complexity of what is meant - for
>>>> better or for worse - by "Internet governance", especially in the global
>>>> context.
>>>> I attended this workshop co-organized by IISD at IGF and it was clear to
>>>> me that both IISD and the invited speakers at this workshop still needs
>>>> to understand what we are talking about, and who's involved in the
>>>> field.
>>>> Proposing to use the term "Internet public policy" in this context
>>>> attests for the misunderstanding. One cannot simply transpose the
>>>> 'public' and 'public policy' concepts that are defined in a national,
>>>> sovereign, regalian context, to a transnational, largely privately
>>>> ordered, context. This has nothing to do with the need for policies
>>>> oriented towards the general interest or the public interest: it is an
>>>> issue of how to define the polity in this new context. I'm always
>>>> puzzled at some people's easy speak of 'transnational democracy':
>>>> transnational, I understand what this means; powers, I see where they
>>>> are and even how they transform and recompose; but where the hell is the
>>>> demos?! "We, the not so happy few"?
>>>> We should be more careful with concepts.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Meryem
>>>>
>>>> Le 22 sept. 10 à 21:59, McTim a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> FYI:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> For those getting tired of the term "Internet Governance" (like me)
>>>>> please see bottom of page 6:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The term “Internet governance” has been widely used since the World
>>>>> Summit on the Information Society to describe not just the technical
>>>>> management and coordination of the Internet itself (which is sometimes
>>>>> called “narrow Internet governance”), but also the
>>>>> relationship between the Internet and mainstream public policy issues
>>>>> that are affected by it (sometimes called “broad Internet
>>>>> governance”). Both of these types of issues are discussed,
>>>>> for example, in the Internet Governance Forum.
>>>>> IISD believes that the use of the term “Internet governance” for this
>>>>> wide range of issues is increasingly inappropriate, particularly where
>>>>> issues fall primarily in other public policy arenas. IISD therefore
>>>>> prefers to use the term “Internet public policy” for this wider range
>>>>> of issues"
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> McTim
>>>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>>>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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