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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Meryem Marzouki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:meryem@marzouki.info">meryem@marzouki.info</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I guess mine is a sort of triangulation between Internet and public policy, the sub-items defining substantive topics or sets of issues pertaining to the former (internet) to the extent that they intersect with the latter (public policy concerns). </div>
<div>Well, until further notice...</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><br><br>On 09/22/2010 05:38 PM, Meryem Marzouki wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">I agree that "Internet governance" is probably inappropriate as it leads<br>to many (largely encouraged) ambiguities, but I also think "Internet<br>
public policy" doesn't capture the complexity of what is meant - for<br>better or for worse - by "Internet governance", especially in the global<br>context.<br>I attended this workshop co-organized by IISD at IGF and it was clear to<br>
me that both IISD and the invited speakers at this workshop still needs<br>to understand what we are talking about, and who's involved in the field.<br>Proposing to use the term "Internet public policy" in this context<br>
attests for the misunderstanding. One cannot simply transpose the<br>'public' and 'public policy' concepts that are defined in a national,<br>sovereign, regalian context, to a transnational, largely privately<br>
ordered, context. This has nothing to do with the need for policies<br>oriented towards the general interest or the public interest: it is an<br>issue of how to define the polity in this new context. I'm always<br>puzzled at some people's easy speak of 'transnational democracy':<br>
transnational, I understand what this means; powers, I see where they<br>are and even how they transform and recompose; but where the hell is the<br>demos?! "We, the not so happy few"?<br>We should be more careful with concepts.<br>
<br>Best,<br>Meryem<br><br>Le 22 sept. 10 à 21:59, McTim a écrit :<br><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">FYI:<br><br><a href="http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2010/icts_internet_sd_new_paradigm.pdf</a><br>
<br>For those getting tired of the term "Internet Governance" (like me)<br>please see bottom of page 6:<br><br>"The term “Internet governance” has been widely used since the World<br>Summit on the Information Society to describe not just the technical<br>
management and coordination of the Internet itself (which is sometimes<br>called “narrow Internet governance”), but also the<br>relationship between the Internet and mainstream public policy issues<br>that are affected by it (sometimes called “broad Internet<br>
governance”). Both of these types of issues are discussed,<br>for example, in the Internet Governance Forum.<br>IISD believes that the use of the term “Internet governance” for this<br>wide range of issues is increasingly inappropriate, particularly where<br>
issues fall primarily in other public policy arenas. IISD therefore<br>prefers to use the term “Internet public policy” for this wider range<br>of issues"<br><br>--<br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>
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