[governance] Parminder's exchange with Bertrand

[Parminder]

Avri Doria wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2010, at 23:42, Parminder wrote:
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>> Unless those arguing for MS-ism as the basic new governance form clearly articulate a response to this question, it is difficult to go any further in this discussion. 
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> I would argue for it, but it does not seem worth doing so in this antagonistic atmosphere.  When I find a nice calm situation where I can spend several months working out a clear articulation that would withstand the aggressive squeeze play attack of Milton & Parminder, I will get back to you.  For now I will declare that for me, it is a pragmatic matter of realizing it is the only game in town. 
> I repeat myself when i say that I think you risk the only chance civil society has of having any real participation in Internet governance if you and Milton succeed in muddying the waters on multistakeholder Internet governance.
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Avri, I am all for pragmatism. It is obvious in the fact that I have 
strongly supported IGF as a multistakeholder institution, and MS 
processes that opened up the WSIS system. I also know that civil society 
got the place in these spaces only because the business sector and the 
technical community had to be accommodated. So we can indeed stick 
together in pragmatism of going along with MS-ism in the present situation.

The problem however starts when even in internal dialogs silences take 
over when key questions of new forms of domination supplanting public 
interest, and dangers of co-option of civil society to them, are 
presented. For instance, when we habitability become muted on US 
hegemony, which is going from strength to strength, and is worse than 
anything before in the digital technologies/ Internet's realm, and 
become insensitive to anyone taking up issues about very dangerous 
monopolies of digital mega-companies, which again are beyond anything we 
have ever known and dealt with.

Parminder

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