[governance] PLEASE RESPOND - draft statement on reform of the
Eric Dierker
cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 15 00:37:52 EST 2010
I do not think that this was too hard or too much to ask? In earlier days we had "me too" posts. Writers and advocates cannot read minds -- especially 400. How do they know when they hit the mark or are offbase. One arguing contributor does not help us to read what many think.
I do my best to contact my friends on the ground from Vladivostok to Tehran, from Cape Cod to Saigon, Falklands to Paris, Johanasberg to Montevideo,,, I read India Times and Al Jazeera, Washington Post (force myself to see some TV and listen to some radio) I study on-line and off -- But I cannot know what the many here think ---. I read Mueller and Williams, Faussett and Cerf, Babtista and Avri but they do not help me know what is thought in your neighborhood.
Even private posts are helpful.
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Dina <dina_hov2007 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dina <dina_hov2007 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] PLEASE RESPOND - draft statement on reform of the
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Presidencia Internauta" <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 10:59 PM
Dear Sergio,
.
But when I see somebody has got my opinion I see no use to repeat the same things . OK I agree with those who think the term "reform" sends a message that could be
misinterpreted and/or exploited by actors that strongly oppose the IGF
Kindest regards
Dina
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Presidencia Internauta <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> wrote:
From: Presidencia Internauta <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
Subject: Re: [governance] PLEASE RESPOND - draft statement on reform of the
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 1:23 PM
Spanish & English
Spanish
Estimados todos: Con respecto a lo sugerido por Souter, creo que es importante la representación de sociedad civil y no la de individuos aislados. Es necesario que la representación sea de un colectivo de opinión y voluntad común y no la del sujeto aislado. Lo que se discute acá es siempre en función del hombre como ser colectivo, como expresión de intereses comunes y no de intereses individuales, nuestra fortaleza radica ahí y no en nuestras individualidades. Me sumo a lo expresado por Baudouin con respecto a seguir lo que se discute en la lista; estoy al tanto de lo que se discute aunque poco he podido hacer en función de la brecha que impone el idioma, así y todo estoy todos los días intentando poner mi ingles lo mejor posible para poder intervenir más.
Saludos cordiales
Sergio Salinas Porto
Internauta A rgentina
Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet
http://www.internauta.org.ar
English
Dear all: On Souter's suggestion, I think it is important according the representation of civil society and not isolated individuals. It is necessary that the representation is a collective opinion and common will and not the isolated individual, What we discuss here is always in terms of the man as a collective, as an expression of common interests rather than individual interests, our strength lies there and not in ours individualities. I agree with what Baudouin expressed regarding what is discussed further in the list. I am aware of what is discussed in the list, but little I could do based on the gap imposed by the language; even so I am trying every day my English and I put my best to participate more.
Best regards
Sergio Salinas Porto
Internauta A rgentina
Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet
http://www.internauta.org.ar
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [governance] PLEASE RESPOND - draft statement on reform of the
> Thanks, Jeremy. I agree with the suggestions for modification from
> Souter and others and wait for the updated statement.
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
> Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:34:55 +0100, Bertrand de La Chapelle
>> <bdelachapelle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>
>>> Just one (I hope constructive) comment on the interesting draft you
>>> circulated. The title currently is : "Statement on the reform of the
>> IGF".
>>> I believe the use of the term "reform" sends a message that could be
>>> misinterpreted and/or exploited by actors that strongly oppose the IGF
>>
>> Thanks for this point. The title was more of a working title for our use,
>> not specifically to be used when the document is submitted. Thus, the word
>> "reform" is not used in the body text. Thus we can, I agree, submit it
>> under a more neutral title such as "Submission of the IGC in taking stock
>> of the Sharm el Sheikh meeting of the IGF".
>>
>>> A few minor suggested edits (*in blue* with suppressed words in red) are
>>> also included in the text. They usually are pointers to coded words in
>> the
>>> UN language or the governmental discussions and it's important for you to
>>> have them in mind.
>>
>> Thanks, and thanks also to those who have commented on the preamble and
>> paragraph 1 so far. Please, anyone, feel free to move on to paragraphs 2, 3
>> and following. I will compile all the suggested changes (where compatible)
>> in a day or two and re-circulate.
>>
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