[governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
Carlos Afonso
ca at rits.org.br
Wed May 20 04:44:16 EDT 2009
This is actually not a problem regarding access to information -- the
material being produced by ITU on cybersecurity and the outreach of
Impacta will not be limited to ITU membership, I learned yesterday.
Problems of another nature arise in the work of ITU, however, like
ignoring the cybersecutiry networks already existing in proposing a
toolkit and guide for governments. This is also the case of Impacta,
which is in Malaysia, where there is a member of the CSIRT net, and I
could not find any mention of a relationship neither in their site or in
their speeches and printed materials.
BTW, according to ISO and ICANN there are about 243 ccTLDs, roughly
mapping into about the same number of countries. I guess then there are
more than just "2 or 3" countries not belonging to the ITU.
--c.a.
Sergio Alves Junior wrote:
> Dear Fouad,
>
> About Impact, you mentionned that we would "all be amazed that you can only
> participate if you are a ITU Member Country".
>
> Considering that the ITU membership includes 191 Member States, could you
> help me with identifying the 2 or 3 countries in the world that are not part
> of the ITU? I only know of Kosowo.
>
> Abraços,
> Sérgio
>
> 2009/5/19 carlos a. afonso <ca at rits.org.br>
>
>> Further, I navigated through the Impact site, and there is no mention of
>> partnerships with CERT or any other proven expert organization in the
>> field.
>>
>> Strange...
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "carlos a. afonso" <ca at rits.org.br>
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>,
>> "Katitza Rodriguez Pereda" <katitza at datos-personales.org>
>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:39:05 -0300
>> Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
>>
>>> The funniest thing is that this Impact initiative looks like a copy
>>> of
>>> the original CERT initiative, which began at Carnegie-Mellon many
>>> years
>>> ago and is now a worldwide network of CSIRTs. The Brazilian one is
>>> maintained by CGI.br and is playing a significant role in the recent
>>> events regarding prevention and repression against cybercrime
>>> (including
>>> cybercrimes against children), has trained dozens of federal police
>>> officers and network operators, and is a relevant reason for the
>>> successes which led to the prize given to Lula by the ITU.
>>>
>>> On top of it, countries do not need to be ITU members to join the
>>> CSIRT
>>> network :)
>>>
>>> Someone is of course making a lot of money with this Impact thing...
>>>
>>> --c.a.
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Carlos A. Afonso
>>> Rits - Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
>>> <katitza at datos-personales.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:11:19 +0700
>>> Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
>>>
>>>> I am at the WSIS Forum in Geneva at the moment and the ITU
>>> presented
>>>> this as its move on Global Cyber Crime and Terrorism
>>>>
>>>> Impact (The International Multilateral Partnership Against
>>>> Cyber-Terrorism) is a coalition of twenty-six countries that have
>>>> united to form a global cyber-security group.
>>>> http://www.impact-alliance.org/
>>>>
>>>> You will all be amazed that you can only participate if you are a
>>> ITU
>>>> Member Country
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
>>>> <katitza at datos-personales.org> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Carlos, Milton, all:
>>>>>
>>>>> I will work in my report of the meeting today or early tomorrow
>>> as
>>>> maximum.
>>>>> In the meantime, regarding cybercrime discussion in Brazil:
>>> Azeredo
>>>> Bill of
>>>>> Law, et all
>>>>>
>>>>> A good English articles could be found here:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Access versus surveillance: Brazilian cybercrime law project"
>>>>>
>>> http://icommons.org/articles/access-versus-surveillance-brazilian-cyb
>>>> ercrime-law-project
>>>>> "Censura Não!: Brazilian Bloggers Protest New Cybercrime Bill"
>>>>>
>>> http://opennet.net/blog/2008/07/censura-n%C3%A3o-brazilian-bloggers-p
>>>> rotest-new-cybercrime-bill
>>>>> "Legislators urged to oppose cyber-crime bill likely to threaten
>>>> online free
>>>>> expression"
>>>>> http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=27917
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Katitza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 19, 2009, at 4:39 AM, McTim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:13 AM, carlos a. afonso
>>> <ca at rits.org.br>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> MM, there is a lot of material, unfortunately mostly in
>>>> Portuguese. And
>>>>>>> there is a strong mobilization against the bill of law (called
>>>> the
>>>>>>> Azeredo Bill of Law, after the name of the senator who, lobbied
>>>> by the
>>>>>>> big banks, is pushing it through Congress). The minister of
>>>> Justice has
>>>>>>> made a strong statement against the bill as it stands now, but
>>>> most of
>>>>>>> Congress have no idea what the senator is talking about and
>>> will
>>>>>>> probably vote in favor if he or she is from an opposition
>>> party.
>>>>>>> For further info in English, try:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/internet-surveillance-in-braz
>>>> il/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/internet-surveillance-in-braz
>>>> il-2/
>>>>>>> http://0fx66.com/blog/en/internet/ato-contra-o-ai-5-digital/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The law is especially pernicious in the case of free access
>>>> services
>>>>>>> (like free wireless networks, community telecenters etc etc).
>>>> Thousands
>>>>>>> of free access services would have to start doing logs and
>>>> register
>>>>>>> personal ID data on users -- and this is were the bill is at
>>> its
>>>> worst.
>>>>>>> Children would be required to identify themselves with formal
>>>> documents
>>>>>>> in order to use a terminal in a community telecenter and so on.
>>>> The bill
>>>>>>> also requires that content providers identify and record
>>> visitors
>>>> !! The
>>>>>>> funny thing is that most of the content services considered are
>>>> in
>>>>>>> foreign servers, far from the reach of Azeredo's claws!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will mean a brutal violation of privacy and freedom of
>>>> expression,
>>>>>>> and an incredible burden to all kinds of Internet services'
>>>> operators.
>>>>>> We have the same kind of "all yourpackets are belong to us us"
>>> law
>>>>>> proposed in UG You can Google up "Interception of
>>>> telecommunications
>>>>>> act uganda".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> McTim
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> Fouad Bajwa
>>>> @skBajwa
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