[governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should

Tue May 19 18:57:37 EDT 2009

Dear Fouad,

About Impact, you mentionned that we would "all be amazed that you can only
participate if you are a ITU Member Country".

Considering that the ITU membership includes 191 Member States, could you
help me with identifying the 2 or 3 countries in the world that are not part
of the ITU? I only know of Kosowo.

Abraços,
Sérgio

2009/5/19 carlos a. afonso <ca at rits.org.br>

> Further, I navigated through the Impact site, and there is no mention of
> partnerships with CERT or any other proven expert organization in the
> field.
>
> Strange...
>
> --c.a.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "carlos a. afonso" <ca at rits.org.br>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>,
> "Katitza Rodriguez Pereda" <katitza at datos-personales.org>
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:39:05 -0300
> Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
>
> > The funniest thing is that this Impact initiative looks like a copy
> > of
> > the original CERT initiative, which began at Carnegie-Mellon many
> > years
> > ago and is now a worldwide network of CSIRTs. The Brazilian one is
> > maintained by CGI.br and is playing a significant role in the recent
> > events regarding prevention and repression against cybercrime
> > (including
> > cybercrimes against children), has trained dozens of federal police
> > officers and network operators, and is a relevant reason for the
> > successes which led to the prize given to Lula by the ITU.
> >
> > On top of it, countries do not need to be ITU members to join the
> > CSIRT
> > network :)
> >
> > Someone is of course making a lot of money with this Impact thing...
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Carlos A. Afonso
> > Rits - Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org,  Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
> > <katitza at datos-personales.org>
> > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:11:19 +0700
> > Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
> >
> > > I am at the WSIS Forum in Geneva at the moment and the ITU
> > presented
> > > this as its move on Global Cyber Crime and Terrorism
> > >
> > > Impact (The International Multilateral Partnership Against
> > > Cyber-Terrorism) is a coalition of twenty-six countries that have
> > > united to form a global cyber-security group.
> > > http://www.impact-alliance.org/
> > >
> > > You will all be amazed that you can only participate if you are a
> > ITU
> > > Member Country
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
> > > <katitza at datos-personales.org> wrote:
> > > > Dear Carlos, Milton, all:
> > > >
> > > > I will work in my report of the meeting today or early tomorrow
> > as
> > > maximum.
> > > > In the meantime, regarding cybercrime discussion in Brazil:
> > Azeredo
> > > Bill of
> > > > Law, et all
> > > >
> > > > A good English articles could be found here:
> > > >
> > > > "Access versus surveillance: Brazilian cybercrime law project"
> > > >
> > >
> > http://icommons.org/articles/access-versus-surveillance-brazilian-cyb
> > > ercrime-law-project
> > > >
> > > > "Censura Não!: Brazilian Bloggers Protest New Cybercrime Bill"
> > > >
> > >
> > http://opennet.net/blog/2008/07/censura-n%C3%A3o-brazilian-bloggers-p
> > > rotest-new-cybercrime-bill
> > > >
> > > > "Legislators urged to oppose cyber-crime bill likely to threaten
> > > online free
> > > > expression"
> > > > http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=27917
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best, Katitza
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 19, 2009, at 4:39 AM, McTim wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:13 AM, carlos a. afonso
> > <ca at rits.org.br>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> MM, there is a lot of material, unfortunately mostly in
> > > Portuguese. And
> > > >>> there is a strong mobilization against the bill of law (called
> > > the
> > > >>> Azeredo Bill of Law, after the name of the senator who, lobbied
> > > by the
> > > >>> big banks, is pushing it through Congress). The minister of
> > > Justice has
> > > >>> made a strong statement against the bill as it stands now, but
> > > most of
> > > >>> Congress have no idea what the senator is talking about and
> > will
> > > >>> probably vote in favor if he or she is from an opposition
> > party.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For further info in English, try:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> > http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/internet-surveillance-in-braz
> > > il/
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> > http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/internet-surveillance-in-braz
> > > il-2/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://0fx66.com/blog/en/internet/ato-contra-o-ai-5-digital/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The law is especially pernicious in the case of free access
> > > services
> > > >>> (like free wireless networks, community telecenters etc etc).
> > > Thousands
> > > >>> of free access services would have to start doing logs and
> > > register
> > > >>> personal ID data on users -- and this is were the bill is at
> > its
> > > worst.
> > > >>> Children would be required to identify themselves with formal
> > > documents
> > > >>> in order to use a terminal in a community telecenter and so on.
> > > The bill
> > > >>> also requires that content providers identify and record
> > visitors
> > > !! The
> > > >>> funny thing is that most of the content services considered are
> > > in
> > > >>> foreign servers, far from the reach of Azeredo's claws!!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It will mean a brutal violation of privacy and freedom of
> > > expression,
> > > >>> and an incredible burden to all kinds of Internet services'
> > > operators.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> We have the same kind of "all yourpackets are belong to us us"
> > law
> > > >> proposed in UG   You can Google up "Interception of
> > > telecommunications
> > > >> act uganda".
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> McTim
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> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > --------------------------
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