[governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should

Tue May 19 10:47:24 EDT 2009

Further, I navigated through the Impact site, and there is no mention of
partnerships with CERT or any other proven expert organization in the field.

Strange...

--c.a.

-----Original Message-----
From: "carlos a. afonso" <ca at rits.org.br>
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>,
"Katitza Rodriguez Pereda" <katitza at datos-personales.org>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:39:05 -0300
Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should

> The funniest thing is that this Impact initiative looks like a copy
> of
> the original CERT initiative, which began at Carnegie-Mellon many
> years
> ago and is now a worldwide network of CSIRTs. The Brazilian one is
> maintained by CGI.br and is playing a significant role in the recent
> events regarding prevention and repression against cybercrime
> (including
> cybercrimes against children), has trained dozens of federal police
> officers and network operators, and is a relevant reason for the
> successes which led to the prize given to Lula by the ITU.
> 
> On top of it, countries do not need to be ITU members to join the
> CSIRT
> network :)
> 
> Someone is of course making a lot of money with this Impact thing...
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Carlos A. Afonso
> Rits - Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org,  Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
> <katitza at datos-personales.org>
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:11:19 +0700
> Subject: Re: [governance] China: "we don't agree that the IGF should
> 
> > I am at the WSIS Forum in Geneva at the moment and the ITU
> presented
> > this as its move on Global Cyber Crime and Terrorism
> > 
> > Impact (The International Multilateral Partnership Against
> > Cyber-Terrorism) is a coalition of twenty-six countries that have
> > united to form a global cyber-security group.
> > http://www.impact-alliance.org/
> > 
> > You will all be amazed that you can only participate if you are a
> ITU
> > Member Country
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Katitza Rodriguez Pereda
> > <katitza at datos-personales.org> wrote:
> > > Dear Carlos, Milton, all:
> > >
> > > I will work in my report of the meeting today or early tomorrow
> as
> > maximum.
> > > In the meantime, regarding cybercrime discussion in Brazil:
> Azeredo
> > Bill of
> > > Law, et all
> > >
> > > A good English articles could be found here:
> > >
> > > "Access versus surveillance: Brazilian cybercrime law project"
> > >
> >
> http://icommons.org/articles/access-versus-surveillance-brazilian-cyb
> > ercrime-law-project
> > >
> > > "Censura Não!: Brazilian Bloggers Protest New Cybercrime Bill"
> > >
> >
> http://opennet.net/blog/2008/07/censura-n%C3%A3o-brazilian-bloggers-p
> > rotest-new-cybercrime-bill
> > >
> > > "Legislators urged to oppose cyber-crime bill likely to threaten
> > online free
> > > expression"
> > > http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=27917
> > >
> > >
> > > Best, Katitza
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 19, 2009, at 4:39 AM, McTim wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:13 AM, carlos a. afonso
> <ca at rits.org.br>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> MM, there is a lot of material, unfortunately mostly in
> > Portuguese. And
> > >>> there is a strong mobilization against the bill of law (called
> > the
> > >>> Azeredo Bill of Law, after the name of the senator who, lobbied
> > by the
> > >>> big banks, is pushing it through Congress). The minister of
> > Justice has
> > >>> made a strong statement against the bill as it stands now, but
> > most of
> > >>> Congress have no idea what the senator is talking about and
> will
> > >>> probably vote in favor if he or she is from an opposition
> party.
> > >>>
> > >>> For further info in English, try:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/internet-surveillance-in-braz
> > il/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/internet-surveillance-in-braz
> > il-2/
> > >>>
> > >>> http://0fx66.com/blog/en/internet/ato-contra-o-ai-5-digital/
> > >>>
> > >>> The law is especially pernicious in the case of free access
> > services
> > >>> (like free wireless networks, community telecenters etc etc).
> > Thousands
> > >>> of free access services would have to start doing logs and
> > register
> > >>> personal ID data on users -- and this is were the bill is at
> its
> > worst.
> > >>> Children would be required to identify themselves with formal
> > documents
> > >>> in order to use a terminal in a community telecenter and so on.
> > The bill
> > >>> also requires that content providers identify and record
> visitors
> > !! The
> > >>> funny thing is that most of the content services considered are
> > in
> > >>> foreign servers, far from the reach of Azeredo's claws!!
> > >>>
> > >>> It will mean a brutal violation of privacy and freedom of
> > expression,
> > >>> and an incredible burden to all kinds of Internet services'
> > operators.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> We have the same kind of "all yourpackets are belong to us us"
> law
> > >> proposed in UG   You can Google up "Interception of
> > telecommunications
> > >> act uganda".
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> McTim
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