[governance] RE: On the process of proposing workshop themes

[William Drake]

Uh, hasn't there been several hundred years of international law  
recognizing sovereigns' rights in all kinds of spheres...?  Don't  
treaties recognize rights, like all the time?

Bit puzzled,

BD

On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote:

> Governments have only one right to sovereignty – I think this is  
> important in the context of the international Internet. Perhaps a  
> workshop theme could include the governments’ sovereignty as opposed  
> to the non-sovereign state of the Internet. The case of ccTLDs could  
> be used as a good starting point for the discussion.
>
> Konstantinos
>
>
> On 26/03/2009 13:34, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at SYR.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Governments do not have any "rights;" they have powers. Only people  
>> have rights. Insofar as governmental powers are justified and just,  
>> they are held and exercised to secure rights for people.
>> Milton Mueller
>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>> XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
>> ------------------------------
>> Internet Governance Project:
>> http://internetgovernance.org <http://internetgovernance.org/>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps the workshop could address aspects related to the Rights  
>>> of  Governments, apart from focussing on the Rights of the  
>>> Users?   Governments of the world might want to argue that they  
>>> have a right to demand  certain content removed - You Tube has  
>>> faced such rights based requests in the  recent past and now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Governments would like to argue that they have a moral right to  
>>> filter,  and to censor inappropriate content ????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is this "rights-based values and principles for internet  
>>> governance"  any way? Define rights, principles and then enact  
>>> laws according to the agreed  values and principles ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> GigaNet Membership Chair,
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