[governance] NN Workshop Thread

[Parminder]

Hi All

I support the proposal to have a NN workshop.

I find Milton's question - what is the GLOBAL angle on it - interesting.

In fact so interesting, that I think we should have a workshop on this 
issue alone. 'NN - What is the GLOBAL angle on it'. In any case it is 
always better to have more focussed issues for workshops.

I do often wonder that if US, or US plus EU, decide that such-and-such 
NN regulation is necessary to be observed by the concerned actors, would 
that not set the default global regime for NN. Do developing countries - 
even a relatively larger and more powerful one  like India - have any 
serious options but to accept the default regime.

What NN issues extend across the global Internet, or are likely to so 
extend? What accordingly are NN issues that are best dealt by a globally 
democratic system - and if there isnt one at present, the problems that 
such a situation presents.

Discussing NN in terms of global Internet policy will be in accordance 
of the central mandate of the IGF as a policy dialogue forum for global 
Internet policy issues. parminder


Ginger Paque wrote:
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> Please post your ideas for a NN Workshop on this thread. I have pasted 
> below the previous discussion I found. Thanks.
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> Ginger suggested:
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> Mixed panel on NN: experts from CS, business and government presenting 
> different sides­we had a great discussion on the NN panel last year, 
> but were missing the academic viewpoint.
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>  Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu
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> As for Net Neutrality, what is the GLOBAL angle on it? What would a 
> discussion contribute that hasn't already been said. The only new 
> development there is the rise of Deep Packet Inspection, which Ralf is 
> working on and perhaps a WS on that would be useful, too
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> Ralf Bendrath <bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de
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> I guess it would be interesting to invite some folks from IETF and related
>  transnational tech forums. The NN debates have so far mostly focused on
> regulations by government agencies or the EU, but the IETF for example has
> also done some work on "what constitutes fairness in bandwidth
> management", e.g. here:
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-relax-fairness-00>
> They are also working on less infringing ways of dealing with the massive
> volume of P2P traffic:
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-p2pi-cooper-workshop-report-01>
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> Oh, and then there are a number of techies who say that the end-to-end
> principle is dead already, because of NAT and related issues. One of our
> colleagues in Delft has done a bit of work on this, and the CCC nerds in
> Bremen just told me the same over the weekend.
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> Bottom line: As you may remember, we had a hard time ourselves here
> recently defining what "NN" would mean exactly. So I guess some technical
> capacity building could not hurt at all here. ;-)
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> >/ The only new development there is the rise of Deep Packet Inspection,/
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> Not only. It's also the spread of the "filtering" debates around the
> world, even in democratic countries. We're just having it in Germany now. :-(
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> >/ which Ralf is working on and perhaps a WS on that would be useful, too/
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> I am all for a workshop on NN and/or on DPI. This might also be a nice
> chance for collaboration with the IGF Dynamic Coalitions on Internet
> Rights and Principles, on Privacy, and on Freedom of Expression.
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> Meryem Marzouki <marzouki at ras.eu.org>__
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> Exactly, and probably not only _technical_ capacity building. One of 
> the - many - aspects I'd fbe interested to discuss is the reasons why 
> some old issues are now being reframed into NN issues, by whom/which 
> actors, and what are the implications of this reframing.
> e.g. content filtering is more an more addressed as a NN issue, rather 
> than a content censorship (i.e. a right violation) issue.
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> In any case, an IGC workshop is worth proposing on this theme.
> Best,
> Meryem
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> Ginger
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> Ms. Virginia (Ginger) Paque
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