[governance] Ziitrain on Facebook

[Parminder]

http://www.opendemocracy.net/node/47778/pdf

Also a bit scary to hear about 'citizenship of Facebook', then it will 
be of Google, and then of second life....

Paradigmatic instance of (obviously controlled) democracy within a 
private system, rather than private enterprises within a democratic 
system. Our social systems are really changing :)

BTW, could not get the exact implication of what is meant to say that if 
30 percent members vote it will be binding on Facebook. It is that if at 
one stage 30 percent voted that, say, the Wikipedia Foundation take over 
Facebook that will be binding.

Not being cynical, but think such reflections are also important and 
necessary as brave new frontiers of 'participation' and 'citizenship' 
are explored. . Parminder

Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> Sorry for the comparison with Brazil :-)) Was just to verify Dick 
> Beaird's statement. France anyway is far below and not concerned in 
> that numbers race.
>
> Of course it is NOT a country ;-)
>
> B.
>
> 2009/4/30 Carlos Afonso <ca at rits.org.br <mailto:ca at rits.org.br>>
>
>     Fine, but let us remind ourselves that it is *not* a country ;)
>
>     --c.a.
>
>
>     Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
>
>         Thanks Wolfgang for pointing us to this article.
>
>         As a matter of fact, the US representative in the recent ITU
>         World Telecom
>         Policy Forum in Lisbon has used himself the analogy that
>         Jonathan raises by
>         saying explicitly : "if Facebook were a country, it would be
>         the fifth
>         largest". If Facebook is really 200 million registered users,
>         it has indeed
>         passed Brazil in the list of countries ranked by population.
>         (see :
>         http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbrank.pl)
>
>         Jonathan's points make sense and I have raised them in the IGF, in
>         particular in Hyderabad, to highlight the fact that such
>         companies "terms of
>         service" are not traditional terms of service but become the
>         law of the
>         space for most users.
>
>         The two questions that this brings are :
>         - *What is the governance of such social networks* : the
>         processes by which
>         such terms of service are "elaborated and applied" (cf. the
>         definition of
>         Internet Governance), as they represent "principles, norms,
>         decision-making
>         procedures and programs" - and in this respect, Facebook is
>         clearly taking
>         unprecedented initiatives
>         - *What relation with the web of national laws* : the
>         articulation between
>         those "company governance regimes" and the various national
>         laws and legal
>         jurisdictions that should apply.
>
>         The Internet has evolved form the physical IP-based network
>         used mostly for
>         email and file transfer into the http/html-based World Wide
>         Web used to
>         access information. It is clearly reaching a third stage with
>         social
>         networking applications, creating a sort of SocioNet, that is
>         looking for
>         its appropriate governance protocols.
>
>         This is the reason why, on behalf of the Dynamic Coalition on
>         Internet
>         Rights and Principles, I have suggested a workshop theme for
>         the next IGF,
>         under the title : "The Governance of Social Media", precisely
>         to address
>         this type of issues. I hope it will be retained.
>
>         Best
>
>         Bertrand
>
>
>         2009/4/29 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
>         wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
>         <mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>>
>
>             http://www.opendemocracy.net/node/47778/pdf
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> ____________________
> Bertrand de La Chapelle
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> the Information Society
> Ministère des Affaires Etrangères et Européennes/ French Ministry of 
> Foreign and European Affairs
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