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Also a bit scary to hear about 'citizenship of Facebook', then it will
be of Google, and then of second life....<br>
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Paradigmatic instance of (obviously controlled) democracy within a
private system, rather than private enterprises within a democratic
system. Our social systems are really changing :) <br>
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BTW, could not get the exact implication of what is meant to say that
if 30 percent members vote it will be binding on Facebook. It is that
if at one stage 30 percent voted that, say, the Wikipedia Foundation
take
over Facebook that will be binding. <br>
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Not being cynical, but think such reflections are also important and
necessary as brave new frontiers of 'participation' and 'citizenship'
are explored. . Parminder <br>
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Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
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type="cite">Carlos,<br>
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Sorry for the comparison with Brazil :-)) Was just to verify Dick
Beaird's statement. France anyway is far below and not concerned in
that numbers race.<br>
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Of course it is NOT a country ;-)<br>
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B.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/30 Carlos Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a
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but let us remind ourselves that it is *not* a country ;)<br>
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Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:<br>
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Wolfgang for pointing us to this article.<br>
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As a matter of fact, the US representative in the recent ITU World
Telecom<br>
Policy Forum in Lisbon has used himself the analogy that Jonathan
raises by<br>
saying explicitly : "if Facebook were a country, it would be the fifth<br>
largest". If Facebook is really 200 million registered users, it has
indeed<br>
passed Brazil in the list of countries ranked by population. (see :<br>
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Jonathan's points make sense and I have raised them in the IGF, in<br>
particular in Hyderabad, to highlight the fact that such companies
"terms of<br>
service" are not traditional terms of service but become the law of the<br>
space for most users.<br>
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The two questions that this brings are :<br>
- *What is the governance of such social networks* : the processes by
which<br>
such terms of service are "elaborated and applied" (cf. the definition
of<br>
Internet Governance), as they represent "principles, norms,
decision-making<br>
procedures and programs" - and in this respect, Facebook is clearly
taking<br>
unprecedented initiatives<br>
- *What relation with the web of national laws* : the articulation
between<br>
those "company governance regimes" and the various national laws and
legal<br>
jurisdictions that should apply.<br>
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The Internet has evolved form the physical IP-based network used mostly
for<br>
email and file transfer into the http/html-based World Wide Web used to<br>
access information. It is clearly reaching a third stage with social<br>
networking applications, creating a sort of SocioNet, that is looking
for<br>
its appropriate governance protocols.<br>
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This is the reason why, on behalf of the Dynamic Coalition on Internet<br>
Rights and Principles, I have suggested a workshop theme for the next
IGF,<br>
under the title : "The Governance of Social Media", precisely to address<br>
this type of issues. I hope it will be retained.<br>
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Best<br>
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Bertrand<br>
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2009/4/29 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <<br>
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