[governance] My blog on the Tuesday consultation

[raul at lacnic.net]

> Hi Raul,
> I guess there are a few misunderstandings...
>
> Raul Echeberria wrote:
>> Jeanette:
>>
>> i completely disagree with your assertion and I have to confess that I
>> am very surprised to see you saying that.
>> The Technical community doesn't exist in the sense that you try to
>> describe. There are not a lot of closed and secret lists
>
> I didn't speak of closed or secret lists. I am subscribed to several
> technical lists myself.

It is implied in what you said. You say that technical community members
among themselves speak in some way and in a different way when speak with
other people. It implieas a vision according which technical community
people only speak for technical community in their lists, and it is not
true since all the forums are open and transparents.

the controversies, debates, discussions and different view expressed,
simply could not be hidden.

..........

>
>> It is also very unfair what you said regarding the "educational"
>> attitude.
>
> Milton referred to the discussion we had about the structure and
> direction of the main session on IPv4/IPv6 at the next IGF meeting. It
> wasn't easy to come to an agreement. Different ideas about the focus and
> the purpose of the session played a role here, as you know.

It was not so difficult. It was the first Main session Workshop in being
ready and perhaps we should think that the different ideas expressed are
based in legitimate different views that anybody involved in that
discussion  had. I think that there was good faith in frank and open
discussion. Is it bad?

>
> You have had a lot of opporuntities to partcipate in deep
>> frank and open discussions with many "technical community" people.
>
> Yes, this is true. And I wouldn't say that all engineers hide
> controversies. Yet, without wanting to be unfair, it is still true that
> I am puzzled by the differences of the ways issues are presented within
> engineering communities and outside of it.

Different forums have different characteristics and some things that are
proposed in the IGF for example are not proposed in other given forums and
viceversa.
Speaking about the small part of the techical community world that
corresponds to LACNIC, we spent a lot of energies and resources in
engaging other stakeholders in the discussions with big success
fortunately trying to be everytime more open and have more participation
(using always a single speech, not changing it according our convenience).
Many people in this list is witness of that.
And without trying to speak on behalf of others, I know that this is not
that only LACNIC does.

So, it is very frustrating for me when I see the way in which you describe
the behavior of the technical community because some people that read that
and ignore how do we work and the efforts we make, can get a very wrong
impression.


Raùl


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