CSU ITU interface / Re: [governance] IGC meeting at the IGF

Fri Dec 5 05:22:32 EST 2008

Dear Jean-Louis
> I am not very enthousiastic about the idea of grouping the CS orgs 
> that volunteer to WORK with the ITU (and not only for being a paying 
> or fee free "member" of any kind). The "coalition" Francis suggests 
> could be too heterogenous and waste too much time in "tuning their 
> violines".
If yiu had paid a closer look into the proposal, the association would 
merely act as a formal channel,
to convey members' opinion.  No need of a consensus on any content.
As for procedural issues, the association may only post a position only 
when there is a consensus.
In matter of procedural issues, whenever it is a matter of reinforcing 
CS participation, the
WSIS experience shows that a consensus may be easily reached.

Therefore no time wasted in internal matters, just a vehicle for a 
diversity of expressions.

> And as a CS volunteer I'm fully opposed to pay any fee of any kind !
What Wolfgang had said

/My conclusions from discussion with ITU people is that there is also an option to join without any costs/fee if we can proof that the group is non-commercial. This is what Toure said in Cairo./

Touré told exactly the same thing  to a few friends and me, yesterday 
evening.
He told us that he passed some fee waivers for a few NGOs before the council
without a glitch.  Who are these NGOs ?  I do not know.
For me this something kind of new, because with Utsumi
to waive fees was not an option.
More recently,   when I made some inquiries to regular ITU staff,
all stakeholders have to pay.. So this appears to be a positive 
development...

Concering the acronym CWSISCS
or

/WSIS concerned Civil Society Conference.  (WSIS-CISOCON)/

to have WSIS separated out, is good idea
since the acronym CISOCON rings funny in French
lets try :
WSIS-CSC

All the best

Francis

> We have our expertise, our know-how, our experience in networking 
> and/or Internet use and rules. This is a point that should be assessed 
> for all CS candidates for an ITU membership of any kind. And these are 
> as many treasures that are basis for discussing with the ITU, through 
> the Council Working group or through any other ITU contact structure. 
> This is particularly valuable when we consider the financial situation 
> (rather a crisis) that the ITU is facing since some years due to low 
> membership fees particularly those of its 700 or so private sector 
> members.
> But once again the CS orgs or individuals interested in a profound 
> move of the ITU towards openness and CS inclusion have to agree on 
> some basic ideas and proposals before any formal discussion with ITU 
> people.
> I'd also mention that there is something in the pipe at the European 
> level. We Europeans have to push forwards this highly necessary 
> initiative and therefore be careful to prevent it from being buried or 
> put in the background.
> BTW Wolfgang : what is this new acronym ? Is it an acoustic ad or has 
> it some meaning ?
> All the best
> Jean-Louis Fullsack
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" 
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; "Dr. Francis MUGUET" 
> <muguet at mdpi.net>; <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
> Cc: "jlfullsack" <jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr>; "WSIS Civil Soc. WG on 
> Information Networks Governance" <gov at wsis-gov.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:06 AM
> Subject: RE: CSU ITU interface / Re: [governance] IGC meeting at the IGF
>
>
>>
>> I fully support this idea.
>>
>> My conclusions from discussion with ITU people is that there is also 
>> an option to join without any costs/fee if we can proof that the 
>> group is non-commercial. This is what Toure said in Cairo. Bill, 
>> based in Geneva, could probably be very helpful and could be the 
>> 'ambassador" which would give him a higher standing in his 
>> interchasnge with ITU.
>>
>> The only thing I do not like is the acronym. What about this?
>>
>> WSIS concerned Civil Society Conference.  (WSIS-CISOCON)
>>
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
>
>
>

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