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Dear Jean-Louis<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4E10DA18F0E14FD1AD1515E0ABCD2FE0@PCbureau"
type="cite">I am not very enthousiastic about the idea of grouping the
CS orgs that volunteer to WORK with the ITU (and not only for being a
paying or fee free "member" of any kind). The "coalition" Francis
suggests could be too heterogenous and waste too much time in "tuning
their violines".</blockquote>
If yiu had paid a closer look into the proposal, the association would
merely act as a formal channel, <br>
to convey members' opinion. No need of a consensus on any content.<br>
As for procedural issues, the association may only post a position only
when there is a consensus.<br>
In matter of procedural issues, whenever it is a matter of reinforcing
CS participation, the<br>
WSIS experience shows that a consensus may be easily reached. <br>
<br>
Therefore no time wasted in internal matters, just a vehicle for a
diversity of expressions. <br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4E10DA18F0E14FD1AD1515E0ABCD2FE0@PCbureau"
type="cite"> And as a CS volunteer I'm fully opposed to pay any fee of
any kind !
<br>
</blockquote>
What Wolfgang had said <br>
<pre wrap=""><i>My conclusions from discussion with ITU people is that there is also an option to join without any costs/fee if we can proof that the group is non-commercial. This is what Toure said in Cairo.</i></pre>
Touré told exactly the same thing to a few friends and me, yesterday
evening.<br>
He told us that he passed some fee waivers for a few NGOs before the
council<br>
without a glitch. Who are these NGOs ? I do not know. <br>
For me this something kind of new, because with Utsumi <br>
to waive fees was not an option.<br>
More recently, when I made some inquiries to regular ITU staff,<br>
all stakeholders have to pay.. So this appears to be a positive
development... <br>
<br>
Concering the acronym CWSISCS<br>
or<br>
<pre wrap=""><i>WSIS concerned Civil Society Conference. (WSIS-CISOCON)</i></pre>
to have WSIS separated out, is good idea<br>
since the acronym CISOCON rings funny in French<br>
lets try : <br>
WSIS-CSC<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
<br>
Francis <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4E10DA18F0E14FD1AD1515E0ABCD2FE0@PCbureau"
type="cite">We have our expertise, our know-how, our experience in
networking and/or Internet use and rules. This is a point that should
be assessed for all CS candidates for an ITU membership of any kind.
And these are as many treasures that are basis for discussing with the
ITU, through the Council Working group or through any other ITU contact
structure. This is particularly valuable when we consider the financial
situation (rather a crisis) that the ITU is facing since some years due
to low membership fees particularly those of its 700 or so private
sector members.
<br>
But once again the CS orgs or individuals interested in a profound move
of the ITU towards openness and CS inclusion have to agree on some
basic ideas and proposals before any formal discussion with ITU people.
<br>
I'd also mention that there is something in the pipe at the European
level. We Europeans have to push forwards this highly necessary
initiative and therefore be careful to prevent it from being buried or
put in the background.
<br>
BTW Wolfgang : what is this new acronym ? Is it an acoustic ad or has
it some meaning ?
<br>
All the best
<br>
Jean-Louis Fullsack
<br>
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Subject: RE: CSU ITU interface / Re: [governance] IGC meeting at the
IGF
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<blockquote type="cite"><br>
I fully support this idea.
<br>
<br>
My conclusions from discussion with ITU people is that there is also an
option to join without any costs/fee if we can proof that the group is
non-commercial. This is what Toure said in Cairo. Bill, based in
Geneva, could probably be very helpful and could be the 'ambassador"
which would give him a higher standing in his interchasnge with ITU.
<br>
<br>
The only thing I do not like is the acronym. What about this?
<br>
<br>
WSIS concerned Civil Society Conference. (WSIS-CISOCON)
<br>
<br>
<br>
Wolfgang
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</blockquote>
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