[bestbits] IGF plus

[parminder]

Jeremy

My impression was that just a draft of the programhas been put forward 
and it has still to go through discussions and approval of the group 
before finalisation.. Is my impression right?

On the presumption that it is yet only a draft - I really  think we 
should have at least a full half session on what really is 
multistakeholderism. And that subject alone. I really am not sure what 
most people here think it is . There is this silence zone around its 
theory and practice. I have raised the question often. I think if there 
is one difference that groups like IT for Change have with many other 
groups in the IG space, it is about an understanding of MSism... And 
while there can be real political differences, I dont see why we should 
have such technical differences, just on the meaning and understanding 
of terms. Lets try to thrash it out forever. And we can start this 
discussion here itself, on this list. Importantly, I saw strong support 
on this list for a specific discussion on what is MSism. I think these 
views should be respected.

I also want the session on ITU plus WSIS 10 to rather on Public policy 
making on global IG.... The responses to questionaire issued by the WG 
on enhanced cooperation by ISOC, ICC, and many developing countries cite 
OECD as one important place where global Internet policy making takes 
place. At least now can we take it that indeed a lot of Internet policy 
making takes place in OECD. (See the posting today on the IGC list 
declaring a project implementing - globally - some parts of the OECD 
Principles for Internet Policy Making). why do we only keep asking 
questions of UN based Internet policy processes, and not from places 
where some real policy making takes place.... We should discuss OECD's 
*global* Internet policy making processes as well. And if we want the 
IEG (Informal Experts Group) as the standard model by which ITU whould 
do its Internet related polciy work, why do we hesitate to tell OECD 
that it should use the same model, and none else.... What I suggesting 
here is - Name this session - Where does global Internet policy making 
take place, how, and what should CS do.

Thirdly, despite repeated appeals, I dont know why are we not ready to 
to name session three directly as NSA or Snowden issue (something stated 
a little better). The world thinks that global IG has changed forever 
because of what Snowden has told us about NSA.... That is not just the 
regular surveillance issue, that we have been talking in all IGFs and 
should keep doing. There is a clear Snowden impact on the global 
Internet - a huge impact. And we need to specifically discuss what this 
impact is, and how US has to be confronted in its (still largely 
unapologetic) global surveillance. That is a specific issue. And Again I 
saw great support for discussing this particular issue at length, but in 
the current draft this issue seem to be hidden as about one sixth of a 
session, that too without mentioning the main actors, NSA, US gov and 
Snowden.

thanks. parminder


On Monday 02 September 2013 01:51 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> On 28/08/2013, at 3:17 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>> Fully support this. Lets give one full day to this...
>
> (Sorry for the delayed response, I've been travelling until my return 
> to the office today.)  We don't have one full day available for this 
> at the Best Bits meeting, unless we take out other things that people 
> want to do, but I've added this as a sub-item to the draft agenda for 
> Bali for the Day 1 morning, under the rather broad heading "Global 
> Internet governance principles, enhanced cooperation and the IGF".
>
> Since you (and Valeria) are nominated as facilitators of that session, 
> you can guide us in suggesting the appropriate emphasis between 
> sub-topics for discussion.  Most surely, we could spend a full week 
> rather than two days if we were to cover everything in the depth it 
> deserves.
>
> I'll also follow up directly with the two of you (and the steering 
> committee, and separately the other nominated facilitators) about 
> this.  Meanwhile I'm working on getting the registration system going, 
> and Access are working on crowd funding for those who need support to 
> participate.
>
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