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<font face="Verdana">Jeremy<br>
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My impression was that just a draft of </font><font
face="Verdana">the program</font><font face="Verdana"> has been
put forward and it has still to go through discussions and
approval of the group before finalisation.. Is my impression right?<br>
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On the presumption that it is yet only a draft - I really think
we should have at least a full half session on what really is
multistakeholderism. And that subject alone. I really am not sure
what most people here think it is . There is this silence zone
around its theory and practice. I have raised the question often.
I think if there is one difference that groups like IT for Change
have with many other groups in the IG space, it is about an
understanding of MSism... And while there can be real political
differences, I dont see why we should have such technical
differences, just on the meaning and understanding of terms. Lets
try to thrash it out forever. And we can start this discussion
here itself, on this list. Importantly, I saw strong support on
this list for a specific discussion on what is MSism. I think
these views should be respected. <br>
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I also want the session on ITU plus WSIS 10 to rather on Public
policy making on global IG.... The responses to questionaire
issued by the WG on enhanced cooperation by ISOC, ICC, and many
developing countries cite OECD as one important place where global
Internet policy making takes place. At least now can we take it
that indeed a lot of Internet policy making takes place in OECD.
(See the posting today on the IGC list declaring a project
implementing - globally - some parts of the OECD Principles for
Internet Policy Making). why do we only keep asking questions of
UN based Internet policy processes, and not from places where some
real policy making takes place.... We should discuss OECD's
*global* Internet policy making processes as well. And if we want
the IEG (Informal Experts Group) as the standard model by which
ITU whould do its Internet related polciy work, why do we hesitate
to tell OECD that it should use the same model, and none else....
What I suggesting here is - Name this session - Where does global
Internet policy making take place, how, and what should CS do. <br>
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Thirdly, despite repeated appeals, I dont know why are we not
ready to to name session three directly as NSA or Snowden issue
(something stated a little better). The world thinks that global
IG has changed forever because of what Snowden has told us about
NSA.... That is not just the regular surveillance issue, that we
have been talking in all IGFs and should keep doing. There is a
clear Snowden impact on the global Internet - a huge impact. And
we need to specifically discuss what this impact is, and how US
has to be confronted in its (still largely unapologetic) global
surveillance. That is a specific issue. And Again I saw great
support for discussing this particular issue at length, but in the
current draft this issue seem to be hidden as about one sixth of a
session, that too without mentioning the main actors, NSA, US gov
and Snowden. <br>
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thanks. parminder <br>
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support this. Lets give one full day to this...<br>
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<div class="AppleOriginalContents">(Sorry for the delayed
response, I've been travelling until my return to the office
today.) We don't have one full day available for this at the
Best Bits meeting, unless we take out other things that people
want to do, but I've added this as a sub-item to the draft
agenda for Bali for the Day 1 morning, under the rather broad
heading "Global Internet governance principles, enhanced
cooperation and the IGF".<br>
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Since you (and Valeria) are nominated as facilitators of that
session, you can guide us in suggesting the appropriate
emphasis between sub-topics for discussion. Most surely, we
could spend a full week rather than two days if we were to
cover everything in the depth it deserves.<br>
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I'll also follow up directly with the two of you (and the
steering committee, and separately the other nominated
facilitators) about this. Meanwhile I'm working on getting
the registration system going, and Access are working on crowd
funding for those who need support to participate.<br>
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