[bestbits] Letter to Pres. Rousseff, was, Re: [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Wed Sep 25 10:19:01 EDT 2013
I very much support this proposal... Was about to suggest this myself on
the IGC list.
we should do it..... parminder
On Wednesday 25 September 2013 07:41 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I would like to propose that we do a letter from civil society
> commending her on her speech. We could mention our support and wishes
> for the Marco Civil, and, if we want, the multi-lateral vs.
> multi-stakeholder question.
>
> Anriette
>
> On 25/09/2013 15:41, Gene Kimmelman wrote:
>> Having been in these situations in the U.S., I fully understand the
>> need to accept and fully embrace progress; I do not want to interfere
>> in what our Brazilian friends are fully capable of handling, other
>> than to say I fully support the sentiment expressed by Joana and Carlos!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com
>> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I totally support Carlos Afonso's view.
>>
>> One step at the time.
>>
>> What matters now is that Dilma has clearly mentioned the CGI.br
>> principles, including the support for net neutrality. It means a
>> LOT for our national scenario and for years of fight to try to
>> pass Marco Civil. Meaning it wont be easy for telcos to take down
>> net neutrality provisions from the draft bill.
>>
>> Even better, this all has happened right after she opened a
>> channel of communication/consulation with CGI.br. That's THE
>> dynamics for internet public policies we dreamed about in Brazil.
>> The issue on using the word "multilateral" shall NOT be used to
>> loose the focus on this major achievement.
>>
>> It is indeed an issue of concern. But it's not actually something
>> new. It has been highlighted in several opportunities in the
>> Brazilian positions at ITU, held by Anatel, our regulatory
>> agency. For instance, in our previous opinion on the role of
>> States. Nevertheless, positions from our Ministry of Foreign
>> Affairs towards multistakeholderism are very clear and positive.
>> And now CGI.br has the door open with the president to correct
>> explain all the important debate of multistakeholder approach on
>> IG. So we have opportunities to correct this schizophrenic aspect
>> and there is hope.
>>
>> So, please, people, let's be positive and understand that having
>> the President referring to these principles - an to Internet
>> Policies - in the UNGA is not a minor thing. I had the lucky to
>> be in a panel at the Council of Europe a few minutes after she
>> delivered the speech and managed to incorporate some of her
>> quotes in my presentation. The public got really impressed.
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> joana
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>> @joana_varon
>> PGP 0x016B8E73
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca
>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear people,
>>
>> I am not sure we will go too far (although philosophers can
>> really be
>> far-fetched in this exercise) in doing an exegesis of her
>> discourse. Let
>> us see how the practice goes. The signs are good: she entered
>> the room
>> to talk to us CGI.br folk with our 10 Principles in hand and
>> the first
>> thing she told us was she agreed with them.
>>
>> She also mentioned the Marco Civil as proposed by the
>> rapporteur (result
>> of a 4-year public dialogue) is the one she agrees with
>> (which is the
>> one CGI.br formally supported), and was going to fight for
>> it, although
>> recognizing that as bill of law transiting through Congress
>> it might
>> suffer modifications which she might veto but Congress could
>> reverse and
>> so on -- in summary, normal practice in a democratic State.
>> The big
>> challenge now is the process in Congress, where the
>> transnational telcos
>> and big media have enormous power.
>>
>> frt rgds
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> On 09/24/2013 09:58 PM, Diego Rafael Canabarro wrote:
>> > the Steering Committee principle reads as "Internet
>> governance must be
>> > exercised in a transparent, multilateral and democratic
>> manner, with the
>> > participation of the various sectors of society, thereby
>> preserving and
>> > encouraging its character as a collective creation."
>> >
>> > Her wording for the UNGA says: "Open, multilateral and
>> democratic
>> > governance, carried out with transparency by stimulating
>> collective
>> > creativity and the participation of society, Governments
>> and the private
>> > sector."
>> >
>> > My reading of that is that: (1) it does not repeat the idea
>> that Internet
>> > governance as a collective creation and (2) the first one
>> defines Internet
>> > governance as something "with the participation of the
>> various sectors of
>> > society", and the second only mentions it should be carried
>> out with
>> > stimuli for "the participation of society, governments and
>> the private
>> > sector."
>> >
>> > Can you see my point?
>> > Em português o trem funciona do mesmo jeito.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Carolina Rossini <
>> > carolina.rossini at gmail.com
>> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Via Renata Avila, segue discurso da Dilma na UN.
>> >> Coming from Renata Avila, see attached Dilma draft speech
>> at UN.
>> >> C
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> *Carolina Rossini*
>> >> *Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*
>> >> Open Technology Institute
>> >> *New America Foundation*
>> >> //
>> >> http://carolinarossini.net/
>> >> + 1 6176979389 <tel:%2B%201%206176979389>
>> >> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com
>> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>*
>> >> skype: carolrossini
>> >> @carolinarossini
>> >>
>> >>
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