[bestbits] Letter to Pres. Rousseff, was, Re: [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

Wed Sep 25 10:46:26 EDT 2013

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From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Anriette Esterhuysen
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Subject: [bestbits] Letter to Pres. Rousseff, was, Re: [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

Dear all

I would like to propose that we do a letter from civil society commending her on her speech. We could mention our support and wishes for the Marco Civil, and, if we want, the multi-lateral vs. multi-stakeholder question.

Anriette

On 25/09/2013 15:41, Gene Kimmelman wrote:

Having been in these situations in the U.S., I fully understand the need to accept and fully embrace progress; I do not want to interfere in what our Brazilian friends are fully capable of handling, other than to say I fully support the sentiment expressed by Joana and Carlos!

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:

Dear all, 

I totally support Carlos Afonso's view. 

One step at the time. 

What matters now is that Dilma has clearly mentioned the CGI.br principles, including the support for net neutrality. It means a LOT for our national scenario and for years of fight to try to pass Marco Civil. Meaning it wont be easy for telcos to take down net neutrality provisions from the draft bill.

Even better, this all has happened right after she opened a channel of communication/consulation with CGI.br. That's THE dynamics for internet public policies we dreamed about in Brazil. The issue on using the word "multilateral" shall NOT be used to loose the focus on this major achievement. 

It is indeed an issue of concern. But it's not actually something new. It has been highlighted in several opportunities in the Brazilian positions at ITU, held by Anatel, our regulatory agency.  For instance, in our previous opinion on the role of States. Nevertheless, positions from our Ministry of Foreign Affairs towards multistakeholderism are very clear and positive. And now CGI.br has the door open with the president to correct explain all the important debate of multistakeholder approach on IG. So we have opportunities to correct this schizophrenic aspect and there is hope. 

So, please, people, let's be positive and understand that having the President referring to these principles - an to Internet Policies - in the UNGA is not a minor thing. I had the lucky to be in a panel at the Council of Europe a few minutes after she delivered the speech and managed to incorporate some of her quotes in my presentation. The public got really impressed. 

all the best

joana

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

Dear people,

I am not sure we will go too far (although philosophers can really be
far-fetched in this exercise) in doing an exegesis of her discourse. Let
us see how the practice goes. The signs are good: she entered the room
to talk to us CGI.br folk with our 10 Principles in hand and the first
thing she told us was she agreed with them.

She also mentioned the Marco Civil as proposed by the rapporteur (result
of a 4-year public dialogue) is the one she agrees with (which is the
one CGI.br formally supported), and was going to fight for it, although
recognizing that as bill of law transiting through Congress it might
suffer modifications which she might veto but Congress could reverse and
so on -- in summary, normal practice in a democratic State. The big
challenge now is the process in Congress, where the transnational telcos
and big media have enormous power.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 09/24/2013 09:58 PM, Diego Rafael Canabarro wrote:
> the Steering Committee principle reads as "Internet governance must be
> exercised in a transparent, multilateral and democratic manner, with the
> participation of the various sectors of society, thereby preserving and
> encouraging its character as a collective creation."
>
> Her wording for the UNGA says: "Open, multilateral and democratic
> governance, carried out with transparency by stimulating collective
> creativity and the participation of society, Governments and the private
> sector."
>
> My reading of that is that: (1) it does not repeat the idea that Internet
> governance as a collective creation and (2) the first one defines Internet
> governance as something "with the participation of the various sectors of
> society", and the second only mentions it should be carried out with
> stimuli for "the participation of society, governments and the private
> sector."
>
> Can you see my point?
> Em português o trem funciona do mesmo jeito.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Carolina Rossini <
> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Via Renata Avila, segue discurso da Dilma na UN.
>> Coming from Renata Avila, see attached Dilma draft speech at UN.
>> C
>>
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>> *Carolina Rossini*
>> *Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*

>> Open Technology Institute
>> *New America Foundation*

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>> http://carolinarossini.net/
>> + 1 6176979389 <tel:%2B%201%206176979389> 
>> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com*
>> skype: carolrossini
>> @carolinarossini
>>
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