[bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Oct 10 12:49:17 EDT 2013
Anja
It wont take more than a few hours of work... The time to send something
is now, in 3-4 days. A lot would get talked in the next few days and
before things get set down CS should put its foot in the door.... see if
you can give it some time..
parminder
On Thursday 10 October 2013 09:49 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:
> I unfortunately won't be able to work on this over the next few days,
> but would be very happy to do so if people agree it can wait until
> Bali. As I explained earlier, I in any case think that is a good idea,
> as I believe that the letter really should include a CS agenda (or at
> least an outline of such an agenda as well), and Bali will give us an
> opportunity to really work on that. As Parminder also noted, the point
> is to influence the process now that there still seems a chance of
> doing so, not just to support it.
>
> If others feel, however, that a letter should go out immediately and
> would like to work on it, I would be very happy for them to go ahead.
>
> Thanks and best,
> Anja
>
>
>
>
> On 10 October 2013 21:23, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com
> <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm not a great drafter of letters but I could work with someone
> (Anja?) to try to get a draft out in the next few days.
>
> N
>
> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>] *On Behalf Of *parminder
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:42 AM
>
>
> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade:
> Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
>
> I agree about sending a letter of support. .
> Especially since it could possibly push things along, in more
> positive directions.
>
> And since it is yet almost an unborn initiative, we could put in
> the stake early.... Who knows in exchange for the legitimacy
> gained through civil society participation someone may even give
> us some elevated seats at the table... Brazil has often jumped to
> such partnership opportunity with civil society in other areas,
> and offered genuine partnerships.
>
> So, lets do it. Write to Brazil welcoming the initiative, and so on.
>
> parminder
>
> On Thursday 10 October 2013 08:36 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> I disagree and agree with Anja that a letter of support would
> be desireable. I would be very surprised if our earlier
> letter of support for Dilma's speech at the UN was not
> communicated to her, perhaps even directly through one or
> another of our Brazilian colleagues or through those on her
> staff who are monitoring these activities; and who knows,
> perhaps even contributed to strengthening her (and Fadi's)
> resolve to take such a courageous and even audacious step.
>
> A letter of support could only reinforce her/their intentions
> in this matter and indicate that we (whoever exactly "we" are)
> as a CS group are in support of this development, intend to
> provide on-going support as it develops and further intend to
> actively contribute to its success through ensuring that the
> public interest of all, globally, are reflected in the
> Internet governance structure which hopefully will emerge.
>
> M
>
> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of
> *matthew shears
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:28 AM
> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade:
> Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014
>
> I agree that we need to approach this with some caution. That
> said, we should start working on a CS agenda for this summit -
> its good for CS to communicate its expectations of such events
> early and we should start this process in Bali. Less
> convinced about the need (or desirability) of writing letters
> of appreciation to all and sundry - we can always note our
> appreciation in the agenda we work up.
>
> On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>
> I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is
> difficult not to be enthused by this proposal. As Mike
> points out, it is a tremendous opportunity for all of us
> to engage in this debate. Why don't we start working on
> another letter to Rousseff, in which we support the idea
> but also start outlining a CS agenda for the summit? What
> would we like to see such a summit achieving? Maybe we can
> use our discussions in Bali as a basis from which to start
> drafting such an agenda.
>
> And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as
> well, at least from those of us who believe that the
> internationalisation of ICANN would be a good thing :)
>
> What do others think?
>
> Best,
> Anja
>
> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm"
> <jeremy at ciroap.org <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
>
> On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria<avri at acm.org> <mailto:avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
>
> It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance
>
> challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards
>
> an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can
>
> participate on an equal footing...
>
>
> It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large,
> have been in proposing similar advances on the status
> quo. (I have not made much of a secret of the fact that I
> was disappointed in the number of endorsements that the
> Best Bits statement on enhanced cooperation
> (http://bestbits.net/ec) received, though in part I accept
> that this was because the statement was simply too long.)
>
> This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's
> future. Of course the writing has been on the wall for
> the IGF for a while now, but it has now officially become
> irrelevant in terms of its larger role in
> multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally
> anticipated in the Tunis Agenda. Of course it will
> continue to have a role as a discussion forum, but the
> momentum for it to fulfil a larger role has moved elsewhere.
>
> It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the
> technical community (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on
> Enhanced Cooperation. Whilst they can still oppose
> meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms,
> this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual.
> With Brazil (and ICANN!) having lost patience and forging
> ahead regardless, this leaves anyone arguing against
> reforms at the WGEC looking silly and irrelevant.
>
> --
>
> *Dr Jeremy Malcolm
> Senior Policy Officer
> Consumers International | the global campaigning voice for
> consumers*
> Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East
> Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000
> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
> Tel: +60 3 7726 1599
>
> Explore our new Resource Zone - the global consumer
> movement knowledge hub |
> http://www.consumersinternational.org/news-and-media/resource-zone
>
> @Consumers_Int | www.consumersinternational.org
> <http://www.consumersinternational.org> |
> www.facebook.com/consumersinternational
> <http://www.facebook.com/consumersinternational>
>
> Read our email confidentiality notice
> <http://www.consumersinternational.org/email-confidentiality>.
> Don't print this email unless necessary.
>
> *WARNING*: This email has not been encrypted. You are
> strongly recommended to enable PGP or S/MIME encryption at
> your end. For instructions, see http://jere.my/l/8m.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Matthew Shears
>
> Director and Representative
>
> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
>
> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)
>
> mshears at cdt.org <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>
>
> +44 (0) 771 247 2987
>
> Skype: mshears
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Anja Kovacs
> The Internet Democracy Project
>
> +91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs
> www.internetdemocracy.in <http://www.internetdemocracy.in/>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.igcaucus.org/pipermail/bestbits/attachments/20131010/bd23a5eb/attachment.htm>
More information about the Bestbits
mailing list