[bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Thu Oct 10 12:19:31 EDT 2013

I unfortunately won't be able to work on this over the next few days, but
would be very happy to do so if people agree it can wait until Bali. As I
explained earlier, I in any case think that is a good idea, as I believe
that the letter really should include a CS agenda (or at least an outline
of such an agenda as well), and Bali will give us an opportunity to really
work on that. As Parminder also noted, the point is to influence the
process now that there still seems a chance of doing so, not just to
support it.

If others feel, however, that a letter should go out immediately and would
like to work on it, I would be very happy for them to go ahead.

Thanks and best,
Anja

On 10 October 2013 21:23, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not a great drafter of letters but I could work with someone (Anja?)
> to try to get a draft out in the next few days.****
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> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *parminder
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:42 AM
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> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil
> will host world event on Internet governance in 2014****
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> I agree about sending a letter of support. .
> Especially since it could possibly push things along, in more positive
> directions.
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> And since it is yet almost an unborn initiative, we could put in the
> stake  early.... Who knows in exchange for the legitimacy gained through
> civil society participation someone may even give us some elevated seats at
> the table... Brazil has often jumped to such partnership opportunity with
> civil society in other areas, and offered genuine partnerships.
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> So, lets do it. Write to Brazil welcoming the initiative,  and so on.
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> parminder****
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> On Thursday 10 October 2013 08:36 PM, michael gurstein wrote:****
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> I disagree and agree with Anja that a letter of support would be
> desireable.  I would be very surprised if our earlier letter of support for
> Dilma's speech at the UN was not communicated to her, perhaps even directly
> through one or another of our Brazilian colleagues or through those on her
> staff who are monitoring these activities; and who knows, perhaps even
> contributed to strengthening her (and Fadi's) resolve to take such a
> courageous and even audacious step.****
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> A letter of support could only reinforce her/their intentions in this
> matter and indicate that we (whoever exactly "we" are) as a CS group are in
> support of this development, intend to provide on-going support as it
> develops and further intend to actively contribute to its success through
> ensuring that the public interest of all, globally, are reflected in the
> Internet governance structure which hopefully will emerge.****
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> *On Behalf Of *matthew shears
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:28 AM
> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil
> will host world event on Internet governance in 2014****
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> I agree that we need to approach this with some caution.  That said, we
> should start working on a CS agenda for this summit - its good for CS to
> communicate its expectations of such events early and we should start this
> process in Bali.  Less convinced about the need (or desirability) of
> writing letters of appreciation to all and sundry - we can always note our
> appreciation in the agenda we work up.
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> On 10/10/2013 06:47, Anja Kovacs wrote:****
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> I share Rafik's caution to some extent, but it is difficult not to be
> enthused by this proposal. As Mike points out, it is a tremendous
> opportunity for all of us to engage in this debate. Why don't we start
> working on another letter to Rousseff, in which we support the idea but
> also start outlining a CS agenda for the summit? What would we like to see
> such a summit achieving? Maybe we can use our discussions in Bali as a
> basis from which to start drafting such an agenda.****
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> And maybe time for a word of appreciation to Chehade as well, at least
> from those of us who believe that the internationalisation of ICANN would
> be a good thing :)****
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> What do others think?****
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> Best,
> Anja****
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> On Oct 10, 2013 7:57 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:****
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> On 10/10/13 06:33, John Curran wrote:****
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> On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> wrote:****
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> Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?****
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> It appears to be a significant effort to address Internet Governance ****
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> challenges, including acceleration of the globalization of ICANN towards ****
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> an environment in which all stakeholders (including all governments) can ****
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> participate on an equal footing...****
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> It puts civil society to shame in how timid we, at large, have been in
> proposing similar advances on the status quo.  (I have not made much of a
> secret of the fact that I was disappointed in the number of endorsements
> that the Best Bits statement on enhanced cooperation (
> http://bestbits.net/ec) received, though in part I accept that this was
> because the statement was simply too long.)
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> This has also, in one stroke, determined the IGF's future.  Of course the
> writing has been on the wall for the IGF for a while now, but it has now
> officially become irrelevant in terms of its larger role in
> multi-stakeholder Internet governance as originally anticipated in the
> Tunis Agenda.  Of course it will continue to have a role as a discussion
> forum, but the momentum for it to fulfil a  larger role has moved elsewhere.
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> It also neutralises the effect of the old guard of the technical community
> (ISOC mainly) at the Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation.  Whilst they
> can still oppose meaningful implementation of enhanced cooperation reforms,
> this opposition is now utterly token and ineffectual.  With Brazil (and
> ICANN!) having lost patience and forging ahead regardless, this leaves
> anyone arguing against reforms at the WGEC looking silly and irrelevant. *
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