[bestbits] [governance] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

Thu Oct 10 11:32:43 EDT 2013

I don't think that we can send someone to Bali but we'd be happy to join a
session remotely or talk ideas / strategy anytime. Is there a central
location where we can get info or can someone keep us in the loop?

-Evan

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:

> It could be a great idea - and it's certainly not a terrible one. WSIS
> was, indeed, run along those lines with (many) parallel civil society
> convening a an alternative civil society declaration coming out of it.
>
> Obvious challenges: the fact that civil society organising structures have
> crumbled since then, the lack of funding, the short time scale to
> organise...
>
> Could FFTF/IDL join us in Bali, in person or remotely? It is really
> important for the rest of us to connect with your community, I feel.
>
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> On 10 Oct 2013, at 10:58 pm, Evan Greer <evangreer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Evan here from Fight for the Future and the Internet Defense League.
>
> I won't pretend that we are well connected to global internet governance
> issues, but we are very good at mobilizing grassroots internet users around
> the world.
>
> I'm wondering what folks thoughts are on organizing an alternative summit
> in Brazil (like an Internet Social Forum) to coincide with the official
> event -- giving us the option to run both an inside game and also have a
> more "pristine" alternative event to discuss our wildest dreams and ideas
> for the future of the Internet. My experience is that alternative summits
> like these can be very effective at re-framing the debate within the walls
> of the official meetings, but provide an opportunity for other work to be
> done as well.
>
> Brazil is such a hot-bed of social movements and tech that it seems like a
> strong location for something like this. We have very strong connections on
> the ground there in a variety of movements.
>
> As I said, we are somewhat outsiders to this particular community, but we
> lurk on this list and try to stay informed, and would be happy to chat with
> anyone who thinks this idea is great / terrible.
>
> Cheers,
> -Evan Greer
> Fight for the Future
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Parminder,
>>
>> being from developing county myself , I am not supporting cyber conf in
>> seoul approach and asked why we should support a summit in Brazil yet to be
>> defined  when there are a lot of concerns about cyber conf series . the
>> inflation of fora is not in benefit of CS and in particular those from
>> developing countries
>> I would like to have clear principles about such IG conference and fora ,
>> I don't think that we can or should prevent them but at least asking them
>> to embrace the principles of openness , inclusion etc
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2013/10/10 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>
>>>  I am great votary of both (1) civil society jumping headlong into all
>>> *important* *global* IG processes, whether *UN or not*, and (2) fluid
>>> agendas ...
>>>
>>> However cant but note a point. I had earlier repeatedly called for us to
>>> look into OCED's CICCP related *global* Internet policy development
>>> processes and its outcomes, and the process and outcomes of the Seoul cyber
>>> conference (or the London and Budapest series).... In fact I kept
>>> insisting  that we do so .... But with a very lukewarm response if any.....
>>>
>>> How do we square such cascading support for taking charge of the
>>> Brazil's new proposed (hardly born yet) process with this earlier
>>> attitude....
>>>
>>> Why is that all processes where developing countries have important, or
>>> even significant, role require urgent examination and intervention, but
>>> those led by developed countries perhaps considered, what is it, friendly,
>>> safe ..... ??
>>>
>>> Now, before anyone gets offended.... let me say, no personal offence
>>> intended, mine is (and is always) a political statement in  a political
>>> space.... And I cant but do what I consider is my job as political civil
>>> society, with strong leanings towards Southern and other marginalised
>>> interests.
>>>
>>> Thanks for understanding, parminder
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 10 October 2013 07:10 PM, Andrew Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think the Brazil initiative gives us a useful focus and we should
>>> definitely make time to discuss it on the fist morning.****
>>>
>>> ** **
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>>> In general, though we have  suggested agenda I think we should be open
>>> to hacking the event and letting participants drive it the way they want if
>>> we can go for concrete positive outcomes.****
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>>> On 10/10/2013, at 9:11 PM, Valeria Betancourt <valeriab at apc.org> wrote:*
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>>> I agree with Anja on her proposal. Taking the opportunity not only for
>>> expressing our support but for outlining a civil society agenda for the
>>> summit would be an strategic move. + 1 as well on proposal re Chehade.  Do
>>> you think it would be one of the outcomes of our meeting in Bali?  ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> +1 from me - and the steering committee is discussing too.  Let's see if
>>> we can't shuffle the day 1 schedule to include this, going beyond just an
>>> expression of support, but including some more substantive output that can
>>> be tabled at the IGF.****
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