[bestbits] Joint civil society endorsements for London meeting of High-Level Panel

Jeremy Malcolm jeremy at ciroap.org
Fri Nov 29 08:40:57 EST 2013


Agree, thanks Nnenna and Marianne. I've informed the other networks that due to problems with the covering letter and lack of time to adequately address them, we should forward the nominees without the letter. 

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> On 29 Nov 2013, at 9:36 pm, Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> *1 from me. Thanks Nnenna
> 
> best
> MF
> 
>> On 29/11/2013 13:33, Nnenna Nwakanma wrote:
>> Hi Jeremy, all
>> 
>> I have nothing againt the two nominees.   The whole part of 1Net, what is it doing on the HLP? These are two different issues.  I went to the pad and canceled out the paragraph on 1Net, but there is still 1Net on the  very first paragraph.
>> 
>> I do NOT think this letter is clear. In such communications, the shorter the better. If HLP  is mixed with 1Net, Fadi can decide to construe it the way he wants. One possible misunderstanding will be that the two are being proposed for the HLP and also for 1Net..
>> 
>> My suggstion will be to have a 2 paragraph letter saying:
>> We had informed you that we wanted more CS representation on the HLP
>> We formed a joint committee of several CS networks
>> We have consulted as rapidly as possible to be able to  have             the suggested reps integrated in time for London
>> Here are the suggestions
>> Just keep the communication to London and leave 1Net alone
>> 
>> 
>> My 2 cents
>> 
>> 
>> N
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>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> The two nominees have my full support, but again, I have considerable issues with the letter in which their nomination is supposed to be shared with ICANN - in fact so much so that I was wondering whether this was written in jest, to see if someone would pick up on these issues? 
>>> 
>>> In any case, just in case it wasn't in jest: I do not remember anyone ever claiming that the panel was a 1net panel. It was very clear that it emerged out of ICANN, and though some who are involved in 1net might have been consulted on it to a greater extent than others, that doesn't change this fundamental fact. The letter thus confuses issues, and by doing so, is unnecessarily antagonistic. More importantly, it therefore also gives the panel a weight that not all on this list (and on the IGC list, as far as I could see) feel it deserves - in fact, some are quite clear it does not, and the panel thus should not be sanctified in ways that have not been agreed on. 
>>> 
>>> There are also a few strange terms being used in the letter. As far as I know, the panel was never named the "CEO's High Level Panel". Also, if someone could guide me to a space where I can find out more about "multi-equal-stakeholderism" and its origins, I'd be grateful - first time I hear about this.
>>> 
>>> In its current form, I find it quite unacceptable to send this.
>>> 
>>> My 2 paise,
>>> Anja
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29 November 2013 10:52, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 29/11/13 13:18, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a concern.  But first could you please explain who was involved in the selection process, who from which organizations, what criteria considered, who were the candidates considered.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My experience of trying to co-coordinate CS contributions to IG topics for a couple of years during the Tunis phase of WSIS and later involvement with the first couple of years of IGF, this just doesn't sit well with me.
>>>> 
>>>> I will address this in the old thread (Re: [bestbits] Formation of a joint steering Committee - as received).  This thread is not for process concerns, just for comments on the two names.
>>>> 
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