<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Agree, thanks Nnenna and Marianne. I've informed the other networks that due to problems with the covering letter and lack of time to adequately address them, we should forward the nominees without the letter. <br><br>-- <div>Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com</div><div>Internet and Open Source lawyer, consumer advocate, geek </div><div>host -t NAPTR 5.9.8.5.2.8.2.2.1.0.6.<a href="http://e164.org">e164.org</a>|awk -F! '{print $3}'</div><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font><b>WARNING</b></font>: This email has not been encrypted. You are strongly recommended to enable PGP or S/MIME encryption at your end. For instructions, see <a href="http://jere.my/l/8m" title="https://luxsci.com/blog/installing-smime-and-pgp-encryption-certificates-into-major-email-clients.html" rel="nofollow external">http://jere.my/l/8m</a>.</span></p><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On 29 Nov 2013, at 9:36 pm, Marianne Franklin <<a href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk">m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/11/2013 13:33, Nnenna Nwakanma
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              <div>Hi Jeremy, all<br>
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              I have nothing againt the two nominees.   The whole part
              of 1Net, what is it doing on the HLP? These are two
              different issues.  I went to the pad and canceled out the
              paragraph on 1Net, but there is still 1Net on the  very
              first paragraph.<br>
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            I do NOT think this letter is clear. In such communications,
            the shorter the better. If HLP  is mixed with 1Net, Fadi can
            decide to construe it the way he wants. One possible
            misunderstanding will be that the two are being proposed for
            the HLP and also for 1Net..<br>
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          My suggstion will be to have a 2 paragraph letter saying:<br>
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          <li>We had informed you that we wanted more CS representation
            on the HLP</li>
          <li>We formed a joint committee of several CS networks</li>
          <li>
            We have consulted as rapidly as possible to be able to  have
            the suggested reps integrated in time for London</li>
          <li>Here are the suggestions</li>
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        <p>Just keep the communication to London and leave 1Net alone</p>
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        <p>My 2 cents</p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Anja
          Kovacs <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>></span>
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                <div>Dear all,<br>
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                  The two nominees have my full support, but again, I
                  have considerable issues with the letter in which
                  their nomination is supposed to be shared with ICANN -
                  in fact so much so that I was wondering whether this
                  was written in jest, to see if someone would pick up
                  on these issues? <br>
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                <div>In any case, just in case it wasn't in jest: I do
                  not remember anyone ever claiming that the panel was a
                  1net panel. It was very clear that it emerged out of
                  ICANN, and though some who are involved in 1net might
                  have been consulted on it to a greater extent than
                  others, that doesn't change this fundamental fact. The
                  letter thus confuses issues, and by doing so, is
                  unnecessarily antagonistic. More importantly, it
                  therefore also gives the panel a weight that not all
                  on this list (and on the IGC list, as far as I could
                  see) feel it deserves - in fact, some are quite clear
                  it does not, and the panel thus should not be
                  sanctified in ways that have not been agreed on. <br>
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                <div>There are also a few strange terms being used in
                  the letter. As far as I know, the panel was never
                  named the "CEO's High Level Panel". Also, if someone
                  could guide me to a space where I can find out more
                  about "multi-equal-stakeholderism" and its origins,
                  I'd be grateful - first time I hear about this.<br>
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                <div>In its current form, I find it quite unacceptable
                  to send this.<br>
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                <div>My 2 paise,<br>
                  Anja<br>
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                  <div class="h5">On 29 November 2013 10:52, Jeremy
                    Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>></span>
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                          <div>On 29/11/13 13:18, Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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                            <pre>Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for this.

I have a concern.  But first could you please explain who was involved in the selection process, who from which organizations, what criteria considered, who were the candidates considered.  

My experience of trying to co-coordinate CS contributions to IG topics for a couple of years during the Tunis phase of WSIS and later involvement with the first couple of years of IGF, this just doesn't sit well with me.
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                        I will address this in the old thread (Re:
                        [bestbits] Formation of a joint steering
                        Committee - as received).  This thread is not
                        for process concerns, just for comments on the
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