[governance] [bestbits] Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
Arsène Tungali (via governance Mailing List)
governance at lists.riseup.net
Thu May 23 07:42:23 EDT 2019
Better now.
I will plan to attend both.
2019-05-23 12:47 UTC+02:00, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
> Oh thanks Sheetal
>
> Yes you are right, Just Net Coalition even is now 2.00 to 4.15 on June
> .. parminder
>
> On 23/05/19 4:07 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sheetal
>>
>> You are right. I just checked. I was misled by this gif in Twitter but
>> I checked Parminder's email, and you are correct. The event is in the
>> afternoon.
>>
>> Apologies.
>>
>> Anriette
>>
>>
>> : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6rajorVUAAN1Wq.png:large
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Anriette Esterhuysen
>> Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic
>> planning
>> Association for Progressive Communications
>> apc.org
>> afrisig.org
>> anriette at apc.org
>> On 2019/05/23 12:27, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>> Dear Anriette, all,
>>>
>>> I thought the JustNet Coalition event was scheduled from 2:00-4:15 pm
>>> on June 11. Is this correct or is there also another event before?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 11:19, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org
>>> <mailto:anriette at apc.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Sheetal
>>>
>>> Apologies if this has been pointed out already, but this date and
>>> time clashes with the JustNet Coalition Day event. Can that not
>>> be avoided?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Anriette
>>>
>>> -----------------------------
>>> Anriette Esterhuysen
>>> Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic
>>> planning
>>> Association for Progressive Communications
>>> apc.org <http://apc.org>
>>> afrisig.org <http://afrisig.org>
>>> anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>
>>>
>>> On 2019/05/23 11:24, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to
>>>> plan the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details
>>>> below:
>>>>
>>>> * Room Dougga
>>>> * June 11, _9am-12:30pm _
>>>> * Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>
>>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to
>>>> be part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to
>>>> meet before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who
>>>> expressed interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>
>>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>> <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>> off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>
>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space
>>>> at the RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful
>>>> if not! Will you be at RightsCon?
>>>>
>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>
>>>> * Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would
>>>> like to attend that first meeting as there is limited
>>>> space but of course we'd like to accommodate everyone
>>>> who can attend
>>>> * If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then
>>>> please do get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping
>>>> everyone updated and you can input into the meeting
>>>> agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have good
>>>> wifi)
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov
>>>> <ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could
>>>> inquire if we could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it
>>>> takes place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>
>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>
>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>> <
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance;
>>>> Sheetal Kumar
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>> survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in
>>>> Hyderabad where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights
>>>> and the DC on Internet Principles had a joint meeting to
>>>> discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic Coalition on
>>>> Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to
>>>> the creation and translation of the Charter on Internet
>>>> Rights and Principles among other positive outcomes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward
>>>> out of this; ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to
>>>> help energize also the cross-CS coordination right?
>>>>
>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset
>>>> and methods embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal
>>>> faculty meeting feel (at times to this prof).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>> <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>> on behalf
>>>> of Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian
>>>> muthusamy; Akinremi Peter Taiwo;
>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>> <
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>> survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among
>>>> some of those of us who attended the last call four
>>>> weeks ago (notes & participants here:
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture),
>>>> see below what some of us propose as a hopefully
>>>> straightforward plan going forward.
>>>>
>>>> * IGC and Bestbits list members work together to
>>>> organise a day 0 event at IGF
>>>> * Volunteers from both lists come together in an
>>>> informal steering committee to organise the event -
>>>> you don't have to identify as 'Bestbits'/IGC
>>>> necessarily and can agree how to approach the
>>>> organisation of the event however they see fit
>>>> * Members of other lists are invited to join once an
>>>> informal agenda has been put together
>>>> * Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in
>>>> this effort come together to discuss preliminary
>>>> ideas - to include the idea of focusing the day 0
>>>> event on reviving IGC (and many others that have
>>>> already been proposed)
>>>>
>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound
>>>> like we've now decided to just organise a meeting again
>>>> I hope you will agree that the discussions had so far,
>>>> the interest and commitment to global level
>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively
>>>> putting together an agenda that responds to the
>>>> interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>> <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once
>>>> I have the recording I'll send it around. In the
>>>> meantime, you can see a short summary at the top of
>>>> the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but
>>>> it should provide an overview of what we discussed:
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these
>>>> discussions about civil society coordination have
>>>> recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level
>>>> coordination and the need to work together in a less
>>>> fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the
>>>> respondents supported exploring a 'merger' with IGC,
>>>> around half also thought expanding the mandate of
>>>> the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the
>>>> call mentioned that the historical standing of the
>>>> IGC is important to leverage and there is
>>>> complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates.
>>>> Therefore, we shouldn't lose that in whatever we
>>>> choose to do going forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete
>>>> to the IGC would be helpful in terms of how a
>>>> 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we
>>>> agreed to put something short together and then to
>>>> share it with you for your feedback before sharing
>>>> it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that
>>>> simple proposal to share with you. I'll share it
>>>> shortly. If anyone else on the call wants to chime
>>>> in with more information please do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen
>>>> <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org
>>>> <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust
>>>> someone will
>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>
>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar
>>>> (sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Dear all,
>>>> >
>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be
>>>> meeting in under an hour at 1
>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>> >
>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> >
>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > (see all numbers -
>>>> https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> >
>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> >
>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or 199.48.152.152
>>>> and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar
>>>> <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Dear all
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details
>>>> for meeting us on *Wednesday,
>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the
>>>> agenda further below too.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best
>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > > (see all numbers -
>>>> https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or
>>>> 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in
>>>> the discussion around
>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please
>>>> share with anyone relevant.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this
>>>> discussion/a recap of what's happened
>>>> > > so far
>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian
>>>> muthusamy <
>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far
>>>> has reached the participants of
>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the
>>>> thinking that "discussion about
>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".
>>>> If riseup.net <http://riseup.net> is working,
>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi
>>>> Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying
>>>> igcaucus.org <http://igcaucus.org> mailbox is not
>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently
>>>> hosted on riseup.net <http://riseup.net>
>>>> mailing-list.
>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you
>>>> are trying to do so as to be
>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM
>>>> sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally
>>>> decided by the Bestbits list to
>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note
>>>> here on a different problem. The
>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving
>>>> messages, who is managing the
>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi
>>>> Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the
>>>> survey should be limited to
>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion
>>>> about merging should be limited to
>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group
>>>> to do a kind of an independent
>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the
>>>> decision of whether the group should cease
>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that
>>>> some folks on the IGC group wants IGC
>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly
>>>> shared some contacts on the
>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the
>>>> privacy issue you are referring to.
>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in
>>>> the picture of any privacy issue that
>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could
>>>> throw more light on this.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the
>>>> review of CSCG, part of our
>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional
>>>> civil society organization in the
>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the
>>>> individual wearing many hat remains.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM
>>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net
>>>> <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see
>>>> a limited response, only
>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the
>>>> IGC list? Possibly the poll
>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who
>>>> are subscribed only to the IGC list.
>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message
>>>> says "future of Bestbits" rather than
>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the
>>>> level of engagement in these
>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening
>>>> civil society coordination, and I know
>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not
>>>> losing motivation. The conversations have
>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in
>>>> changing the current situation
>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a
>>>> coordination network), and
>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to
>>>> strengthen global civil society coordination
>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far,
>>>> and the survey which gathered a
>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been
>>>> helpful. I attached a summary report of
>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the
>>>> last IGF in Paris there was discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this
>>>> year. Before we do that however, it
>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses
>>>> to the survey and agree a way
>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a
>>>> suggested agenda. It would be
>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29
>>>> March so I can confirm the date and
>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your
>>>> energy and contributions so far!
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal
>>>> Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who
>>>> completed the survey. I have
>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a
>>>> text document, with a summary included
>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a
>>>> split call, with the first half
>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and
>>>> suggesting a way forward (45 minutes-1
>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed
>>>> necessary, with IGC founders and other
>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange
>>>> that as a separate call too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the
>>>> survey have been to find a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society
>>>> coordination, and thus to change
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope
>>>> that they help in finding a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so
>>>> doing, responds to the widest possible
>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any
>>>> other suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll
>>>> send around a doodle for a follow up
>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal
>>>> Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of
>>>> responses but it would be great
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the
>>>> future of Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday
>>>> that would be much appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle
>>>> for another call to decide next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to
>>>> the survey so thank you to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please
>>>> do lend your views if you can,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey
>>>> responses will feed into the next set
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of
>>>> Bestbits.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on
>>>> this thread, please see a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views
>>>> on the future of Bestbits. Following a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members
>>>> of Bestbits, as well as members of IGC, it
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be
>>>> circulated to gather views of all members.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a
>>>> background information note which
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the
>>>> discussions so far, and links to the summaries of
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits
>>>> mailing list, you are invited to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform
>>>> future discussions in a timely way, please
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*.
>>>> Should you have any
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate
>>>> to get in touch.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your
>>>> views!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who
>>>> participated in the call yesterday. For
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the
>>>> call, you'll find the list of participants
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about
>>>> the possible ways forward for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the
>>>> previous conversation in December and the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general
>>>> agreement that both Bestbits and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges
>>>> in fulfilling their objectives,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to
>>>> coordination and we agreed to circulate a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather
>>>> perspectives on four suggested ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call.
>>>> It was suggested that this survey with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into
>>>> a decision on the future of the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be
>>>> circulated shortly to both lists shortly,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be
>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder
>>>> that the call on next steps is
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February
>>>> from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my
>>>> previous email and I've updated the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad
>>>>
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to
>>>> you then!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the
>>>> doodle! It seems the best time
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on
>>>> February 11*. The full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including
>>>> how to join, are below.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting
>>>> up the room. Looking forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you
>>>> as possible on the 11th!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC
>>>> <http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System:
>>>> bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Dial:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary,
>>>> San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers -
>>>> http://bluejeans.com/numbers
>>>> <http://bluejeans.com/numbers>)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Enter Conference ID :
>>>> 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call
>>>> in, your phone number will
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room
>>>> page. We would like to record and share the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network
>>>> on the mailing list. Please let us know if
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording
>>>> to be shared on an open mailing list if you
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of
>>>> the Bestbits and IGC lists,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a
>>>> merger + other options
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>> challenges and issues faced in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>> merger of lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>> quo - using lists as information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>> steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the
>>>> lists
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of
>>>> those who indicated they were available for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of
>>>> course, as a Bestbits member you can join the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in
>>>> the pad, this is just to have a vague idea
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13,
>>>> Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the
>>>> engagement on this topic, and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have
>>>> shared their perspectives and the relevant
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the
>>>> call we agreed to touch base
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January
>>>> to agree a way forward. The discussions here
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the
>>>> discussion, and Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space
>>>> for us.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a
>>>> doodle for our second call to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a
>>>> suggested agenda:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>> challenges and issues faced
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>> merger of lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>> quo, e.g using lists as information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>> approach
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>> steps/agreement on process for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding
>>>> future of Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who
>>>> arranged the last call, we
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members
>>>> are invited but that we also reach out to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide
>>>> some background and inform the discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the
>>>> doodle by the end of next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can
>>>> set a time and send the conference room link
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10,
>>>> Deirdre Williams <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this
>>>> discussion with care, and have a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which
>>>> seem to fall in line with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less
>>>> stopped sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing
>>>> things/ working together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the
>>>> two groups again really improve participation?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to
>>>> look at what needs to be done,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we
>>>> want to do it?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the
>>>> same as the people who started
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same
>>>> objectives, same perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these
>>>> questions it seems unlikely that
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration
>>>> please consider IRPC (which many
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which
>>>> is currently having some difficulty with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to
>>>> carry out management tasks for the group.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a
>>>> means to discuss issues and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is
>>>> this the right way to do that now or do we need
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09,
>>>> Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au
>>>> <mailto:jeremy at malcolm.id.au>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal
>>>> Kumar wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of
>>>> the first Steering Committee
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more
>>>> information about how it was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse
>>>> had become toxic and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It
>>>> had been a while since it had
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement.
>>>> At the same time, the 2012 ITU
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to
>>>> collaborate on joint action
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations
>>>> between people both inside and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming
>>>> the first volunteer steering
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil
>>>> society politics that had driven
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to
>>>> disrupt Best Bits too. There were
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about
>>>> various participants having
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent
>>>> enough about their own funding.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been
>>>> fairly lightweight and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms
>>>> of accountability resulted in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a
>>>> more elaborate set of rules
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was
>>>> too heavy and people weren't
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new
>>>> processes, indicating that the more
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been
>>>> better.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of
>>>> willing people who could
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal
>>>> elections, I'd be all for that. But I
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have
>>>> given as much time to it as
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing
>>>> my energy on my new nonprofit
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB
>>>> (Hons) B Com
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy
>>>> advocate, geek
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo
>>>> "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q
>>>> -i
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for
>>>> poverty is not money but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur
>>>> Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>> PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>> Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M:
>>>> +44 (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 |
>>>> PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>> CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>> PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>> Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>> Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
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>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>> Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
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>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>> London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>> London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>> London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>> London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>> London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>> (0)7739569514 |
>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP
>>>> Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> --
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>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
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>>>> > >>>>>
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>>>> > >>> --
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>>>>
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>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
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>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London,
>>>> E1 5JL
>>>> > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514
>>>> |
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>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint:
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 |
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 |
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>>>> 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514 |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31 | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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