[governance] [bestbits] Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps

Arsène Tungali (via governance Mailing List) governance at lists.riseup.net
Thu May 23 07:42:23 EDT 2019


Better now.
I will plan to attend both.

2019-05-23 12:47 UTC+02:00, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
> Oh thanks Sheetal
>
> Yes you are right, Just Net Coalition even is now 2.00 to 4.15 on June
> .. parminder
>
> On 23/05/19 4:07 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sheetal
>>
>> You are right. I just checked. I was misled by this gif in Twitter but
>> I checked Parminder's email, and you are correct. The event is in the
>> afternoon.
>>
>> Apologies.
>>
>> Anriette
>>
>>
>> : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6rajorVUAAN1Wq.png:large
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Anriette Esterhuysen
>> Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic
>> planning
>> Association for Progressive Communications
>> apc.org
>> afrisig.org
>> anriette at apc.org
>> On 2019/05/23 12:27, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>> Dear Anriette, all,
>>>
>>> I thought the JustNet Coalition event was scheduled from 2:00-4:15 pm
>>> on June 11. Is this correct or is there also another event before?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 11:19, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org
>>> <mailto:anriette at apc.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Dear Sheetal
>>>
>>>     Apologies if this has been pointed out already, but this date and
>>>     time clashes with the JustNet Coalition Day event. Can that not
>>>     be avoided?
>>>
>>>     Thanks
>>>
>>>     Anriette
>>>
>>>     -----------------------------
>>>     Anriette Esterhuysen
>>>     Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic
>>> planning
>>>     Association for Progressive Communications
>>>     apc.org <http://apc.org>
>>>     afrisig.org <http://afrisig.org>
>>>     anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>
>>>
>>>     On 2019/05/23 11:24, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>     Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>     Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to
>>>>     plan the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details
>>>>     below:
>>>>
>>>>       * Room Dougga
>>>>       * June 11, _9am-12:30pm _
>>>>       * Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>
>>>>     If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>     be part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to
>>>>     meet before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who
>>>>     expressed interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>
>>>>     Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>
>>>>     Best
>>>>     Sheetal.
>>>>     --
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>         Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>>         off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>
>>>>         @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space
>>>>         at the RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful
>>>>         if not! Will you be at RightsCon?
>>>>
>>>>         On the way forward:
>>>>
>>>>           * Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would
>>>>             like to attend that first meeting as there is limited
>>>>             space but of course we'd like to accommodate everyone
>>>>             who can attend
>>>>           * If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then
>>>>             please do get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping
>>>>             everyone updated and you can input into the meeting
>>>>             agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have good
>>>> wifi)
>>>>
>>>>         Best
>>>>         Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov
>>>>         <ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could
>>>>             inquire if we could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it
>>>>             takes place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>
>>>>             Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>
>>>>             Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>>>
>>>>             Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>
>>>>             Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>
>>>>             Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>             <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>             [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>] *On Behalf
>>>>             Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>             *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>>             Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt <
>>>>             governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>>             <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance;
>>>>             Sheetal Kumar
>>>>             *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>>             survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in
>>>>             Hyderabad where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights
>>>>             and the DC on Internet Principles had a joint meeting to
>>>>             discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic Coalition on
>>>>             Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to
>>>>             the creation and translation of the Charter on Internet
>>>>             Rights and Principles among other positive outcomes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward
>>>>             out of this; ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to
>>>>             help energize also the cross-CS coordination right?
>>>>
>>>>             Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset
>>>>             and methods embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal
>>>>             faculty meeting feel (at times to this prof).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>             <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>> on behalf
>>>>             of Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>             <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>>             *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>             *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian
>>>>             muthusamy; Akinremi Peter Taiwo;
>>>>             bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>             <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt <
>>>>             governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>>             <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance
>>>>             *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>>             survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Dear all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Following our discussions, and some discussions among
>>>>             some of  those of us who attended the last call four
>>>>             weeks ago (notes & participants here:
>>>>             https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture),
>>>>             see below what some of us propose as a hopefully
>>>>             straightforward plan going forward.
>>>>
>>>>               * IGC and Bestbits list members work together to
>>>>                 organise a day 0 event at IGF
>>>>               * Volunteers from both lists come together in an
>>>>                 informal steering committee to organise the event -
>>>>                 you don't have to identify as 'Bestbits'/IGC
>>>>                 necessarily and can agree how to approach the
>>>>                 organisation of the event however they see fit
>>>>               * Members of other lists are invited to join once an
>>>>                 informal agenda has been put together
>>>>               * Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in
>>>>                 this effort come together to discuss preliminary
>>>>                 ideas - to include the idea of focusing the day 0
>>>>                 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have
>>>>                 already been proposed)
>>>>
>>>>             Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound
>>>>             like we've now decided to just organise a meeting again
>>>>             I hope you will agree that the discussions had so far,
>>>>             the interest and commitment to global level
>>>>             coordination, would be usefully served by collectively
>>>>             putting together an agenda that responds to the
>>>>             interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Please provide your views on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Best
>>>>
>>>>             Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>             <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>>             wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once
>>>>                 I have the recording I'll send it around. In the
>>>>                 meantime, you can see a short summary at the top of
>>>>                 the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but
>>>>                 it should provide an overview of what we discussed:
>>>>                 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>                 <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 In essence, we discussed the reasons that these
>>>>                 discussions about civil society coordination have
>>>>                 recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>                 reiterated the commitment to global-level
>>>>                 coordination and the need to work together in a less
>>>>                 fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>                 discussed the fact that although about half of the
>>>>                 respondents supported exploring a 'merger' with IGC,
>>>>                 around half also thought expanding the mandate of
>>>>                 the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the
>>>>                 call mentioned that the historical standing of the
>>>>                 IGC is important to leverage and there is
>>>>                 complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates.
>>>>                 Therefore, we shouldn't lose that in whatever we
>>>>                 choose to do going forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 We discussed that proposing something more concrete
>>>>                 to the IGC would be helpful in terms of how a
>>>>                 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>>                 limited number of the people on the call, so we
>>>>                 agreed to put something short together and then to
>>>>                 share it with you for your feedback before sharing
>>>>                 it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that
>>>>                 simple proposal to share with you. I'll share it
>>>>                 shortly. If anyone else on the call wants to chime
>>>>                 in with more information please do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Best
>>>>
>>>>                 Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>                 <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org
>>>>                 <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust
>>>>                     someone will
>>>>                     report on the meeting.
>>>>
>>>>                     Regards,
>>>>
>>>>                     --
>>>>                     Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>
>>>>                     On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>                     (sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     > Dear all,
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be
>>>>                     meeting in under an hour at 1
>>>>                     > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Best
>>>>                     > Sheetal.
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Meeting room details
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > *Meeting URL*
>>>>                     > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Meeting ID
>>>>                     > 524 189 381
>>>>                     > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>                     > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>                     > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>                     > (see all numbers -
>>>>                     https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>                     > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or 199.48.152.152
>>>>                     and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>                     <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > > Dear all
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > As promised, please find below the details
>>>>                     for meeting us on *Wednesday,
>>>>                     > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the
>>>>                     agenda further below too.
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Best
>>>>                     > > Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Meeting room details
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>                     > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Meeting ID
>>>>                     > > 524 189 381
>>>>                     > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>                     > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>                     > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>                     > > (see all numbers -
>>>>                     https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>                     > > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or
>>>>                     199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in
>>>>                     the discussion around
>>>>                     > > improving coordination are welcome so please
>>>>                     share with anyone relevant.
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > Suggested agenda
>>>>                     > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this
>>>>                     discussion/a recap of what's happened
>>>>                     > > so far
>>>>                     > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>                     > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>                     > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian
>>>>                     muthusamy <
>>>>                     > > 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>>                     <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far
>>>>                     has reached the participants of
>>>>                     > >> the Governance list, especially the
>>>>                     thinking that "discussion about
>>>>                     > >> merging should be limited to each group".
>>>>                     If riseup.net <http://riseup.net> is working,
>>>>                     > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >> Thank you.
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>                     > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>                     <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi
>>>>                     Peter Taiwo <
>>>>                     > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>>                     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying
>>>>                     igcaucus.org <http://igcaucus.org> mailbox is not
>>>>                     > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently
>>>>                     hosted on riseup.net <http://riseup.net>
>>>>                     mailing-list.
>>>>                     > >>> Please can you help me understand what you
>>>>                     are trying to do so as to be
>>>>                     > >>> able to help.
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>> Regards.
>>>>                     > >>> Peter
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM
>>>>                     sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>                     > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>>                     <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally
>>>>                     decided by the Bestbits list to
>>>>                     > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note
>>>>                     here on a different problem. The
>>>>                     > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving
>>>>                     messages, who is managing the
>>>>                     > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>                     > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>                     <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi
>>>>                     Peter Taiwo <
>>>>                     > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>>                     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the
>>>>                     survey should be limited to
>>>>                     > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion
>>>>                     about merging should be limited to
>>>>                     > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group
>>>>                     to do a kind of an independent
>>>>                     > >>>>> assessment that would inform the
>>>>                     decision of whether the group should cease
>>>>                     > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that
>>>>                     some folks on the IGC group wants IGC
>>>>                     > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly
>>>>                     shared some contacts on the
>>>>                     > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the
>>>>                     privacy issue you are referring to.
>>>>                     > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in
>>>>                     the picture of any privacy issue that
>>>>                     > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could
>>>>                     throw more light on this.
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> I could also remembered during the
>>>>                     review of CSCG, part of our
>>>>                     > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional
>>>>                     civil society organization in the
>>>>                     > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the
>>>>                     individual wearing many hat remains.
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>                     > >>>>> Peter
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM
>>>>                     Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>                     > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net
>>>>                     <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see
>>>>                     a limited response, only
>>>>                     > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the
>>>>                     IGC list?  Possibly the poll
>>>>                     > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who
>>>>                     are subscribed only to the IGC list.
>>>>                     > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message
>>>>                     says "future of Bestbits" rather than
>>>>                     > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the
>>>>                     level of engagement in these
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening
>>>>                     civil society coordination, and I know
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not
>>>>                     losing motivation. The conversations have
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in
>>>>                     changing the current situation
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a
>>>>                     coordination network), and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to
>>>>                     strengthen global civil society coordination
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far,
>>>>                     and the survey which gathered a
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been
>>>>                     helpful. I attached a summary report of
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the
>>>>                     last IGF in Paris there was discussion
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this
>>>>                     year. Before we do that however, it
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses
>>>>                     to the survey and agree a way
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a
>>>>                     suggested agenda. It would be
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29
>>>>                     March so I can confirm the date and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your
>>>>                     energy and contributions so far!
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal
>>>>                     Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who
>>>>                     completed the survey. I have
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a
>>>>                     text document, with a summary included
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a
>>>>                     split call, with the first half
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and
>>>>                     suggesting a way forward (45 minutes-1
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed
>>>>                     necessary, with IGC founders and other
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange
>>>>                     that as a separate call too.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the
>>>>                     survey have been to find a way
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society
>>>>                     coordination, and thus to change
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope
>>>>                     that they help in finding a way
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so
>>>>                     doing, responds to the widest possible
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any
>>>>                     other suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll
>>>>                     send around a doodle for a follow up
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal
>>>>                     Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of
>>>>                     responses but it would be great
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the
>>>>                     future of Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday
>>>>                     that would be much appreciated.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle
>>>>                     for another call to decide next
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to
>>>>                     the survey so thank you to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please
>>>>                     do lend your views if you can,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey
>>>>                     responses will feed into the next set
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of
>>>>                     Bestbits.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on
>>>>                     this thread, please see a
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views
>>>>                     on the future of Bestbits. Following a
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members
>>>>                     of Bestbits, as well as members of IGC, it
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be
>>>>                     circulated to gather views of all members.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a
>>>>                     background information note which
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the
>>>>                     discussions so far, and links to the summaries of
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits
>>>>                     mailing list, you are invited to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform
>>>>                     future discussions in a timely way, please
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*.
>>>>                     Should you have any
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate
>>>>                     to get in touch.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your
>>>> views!
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who
>>>>                     participated in the call yesterday. For
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the
>>>>                     call, you'll find the list of participants
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about
>>>>                     the possible ways forward for
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the
>>>>                     previous conversation in December and the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general
>>>>                     agreement that both Bestbits and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges
>>>>                     in fulfilling their objectives,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to
>>>>                     coordination and we agreed to circulate a
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather
>>>>                     perspectives on four suggested ways forward
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call.
>>>>                     It was suggested that this survey with
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into
>>>>                     a decision on the future of the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be
>>>>                     circulated shortly to both lists shortly,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be
>>>>                     greatly appreciated.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder
>>>>                     that the call on next steps is
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February
>>>>                     from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The full
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my
>>>>                     previous email and I've updated the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad
>>>>
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to
>>>>                     you then!
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the
>>>>                     doodle! It seems the best time
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on
>>>>                     February 11*. The full
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including
>>>>                     how to join, are below.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting
>>>>                     up the room. Looking forward
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you
>>>>                     as possible on the 11th!
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC
>>>>                     <http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System:
>>>>                     bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary,
>>>>                     San Jose))
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers -
>>>>                     http://bluejeans.com/numbers
>>>>                     <http://bluejeans.com/numbers>)
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID :
>>>> 819760256
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call
>>>>                     in, your phone number will
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room
>>>>                     page. We would like to record and share the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network
>>>>                     on the mailing list. Please let us know if
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording
>>>>                     to be shared on an open mailing list if you
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of
>>>>                     the Bestbits and IGC lists,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a
>>>>                     merger + other options
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>>                     challenges and issues faced in
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>>                     merger of lists/establishment
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>>                     quo - using lists as information sharing
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>>                     steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the
>>>>                     lists
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of
>>>>                     those who indicated they were available for
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of
>>>>                     course, as a Bestbits member you can join the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in
>>>>                     the pad, this is just to have a vague idea
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13,
>>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the
>>>>                     engagement on this topic, and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have
>>>>                     shared their perspectives and the relevant
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the
>>>>                     call we agreed to touch base
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January
>>>>                     to agree a way forward. The discussions here
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the
>>>>                     discussion, and Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space
>>>>                     for us.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a
>>>>                     doodle for our second call to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a
>>>>                     suggested agenda:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>>                     challenges and issues faced
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>>                     merger of lists/establishment
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>>                     quo, e.g using lists as information sharing
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>                     approach
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>>                     steps/agreement on process for
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding
>>>>                     future of Bestbits
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who
>>>>                     arranged the last call, we
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members
>>>>                     are invited but that we also reach out to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide
>>>>                     some background and inform the discussion
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the
>>>>                     doodle by the end of next
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can
>>>>                     set a time and send the conference room link
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10,
>>>>                     Deirdre Williams <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com
>>>>                     <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this
>>>>                     discussion with care, and have a
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which
>>>>                     seem to fall in line with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less
>>>>                     stopped sharing
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing
>>>>                     things/ working together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the
>>>>                     two groups again really improve participation?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to
>>>>                     look at what needs to be done,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we
>>>>                     want to do it?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the
>>>>                     same as the people who started
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same
>>>>                     objectives, same perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these
>>>>                     questions it seems unlikely that
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration
>>>>                     please consider IRPC (which many
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which
>>>>                     is currently having some difficulty with
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to
>>>>                     carry out management tasks for the group.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a
>>>>                     means to discuss issues and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is
>>>>                     this the right way to do that now or do we need
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09,
>>>>                     Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au
>>>>                     <mailto:jeremy at malcolm.id.au>> wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal
>>>>                     Kumar wrote:
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of
>>>>                     the first Steering Committee
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more
>>>>                     information about how it was
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse
>>>>                     had become toxic and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It
>>>>                     had been a while since it had
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement.
>>>>                     At the same time, the 2012 ITU
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to
>>>>                     collaborate on joint action
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations
>>>>                     between people both inside and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming
>>>>                     the first volunteer steering
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil
>>>>                     society politics that had driven
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to
>>>>                     disrupt Best Bits too. There were
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about
>>>>                     various participants having
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent
>>>>                     enough about their own funding.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been
>>>>                     fairly lightweight and
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms
>>>>                     of accountability resulted in
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a
>>>>                     more elaborate set of rules
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was
>>>>                     too heavy and people weren't
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new
>>>>                     processes, indicating that the more
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been
>>>>                     better.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of
>>>>                     willing people who could
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal
>>>>                     elections, I'd be all for that. But I
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have
>>>>                     given as much time to it as
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing
>>>>                     my energy on my new nonprofit
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB
>>>>                     (Hons) B Com
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy
>>>>                     advocate, geek
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo
>>>>                     "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q
>>>> -i
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for
>>>>                     poverty is not money but
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur
>>>>                     Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>>                     PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M:
>>>>                     +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  |
>>>>                     PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1
>>>>                     CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>>                     PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1
>>>> CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>                     > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>                     > >>>>>> --
>>>>                     > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>                     > >>>>>> Please send all replies to
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>>>>                     > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
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>>>>                     <http://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi>
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb>
>>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>>                     > >>>>
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>> --
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb>
>>>>                     > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>                     > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>                     <http://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi>
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb>
>>>>                     > >>>
>>>>                     > >>
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > --
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London,
>>>>                     E1 5JL
>>>>                     > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514
>>>> |
>>>>                     > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint:
>>>>                     F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>                     > > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     > >
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > --
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     >
>>>>                     > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>                     > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>                     > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>                     > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                     > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint:
>>>>                     F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F
>>>>                     > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>                     >
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>                 --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>>                 Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>>                 Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>>                 T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>                 PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>                 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>>             Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>>             Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>>             T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>             PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>             173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         *
>>>>         *
>>>>         *
>>>>         *
>>>>         *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>         Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>         Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>         T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>         PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>         E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>     *
>>>>     *
>>>>     *
>>>>     *
>>>>     *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>     Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>     Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>     T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>     PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>     0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> *
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>>> *
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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