[governance] [bestbits] Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu May 23 06:47:17 EDT 2019


Oh thanks Sheetal

Yes you are right, Just Net Coalition even is now 2.00 to 4.15 on June
.. parminder

On 23/05/19 4:07 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>
> Dear Sheetal
>
> You are right. I just checked. I was misled by this gif in Twitter but
> I checked Parminder's email, and you are correct. The event is in the
> afternoon.
>
> Apologies.
>
> Anriette
>
>
> : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6rajorVUAAN1Wq.png:large
>
> -----------------------------
> Anriette Esterhuysen
> Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic planning
> Association for Progressive Communications
> apc.org
> afrisig.org
> anriette at apc.org
> On 2019/05/23 12:27, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>> Dear Anriette, all,
>>
>> I thought the JustNet Coalition event was scheduled from 2:00-4:15 pm
>> on June 11. Is this correct or is there also another event before?
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal
>>
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 11:19, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org
>> <mailto:anriette at apc.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Sheetal
>>
>>     Apologies if this has been pointed out already, but this date and
>>     time clashes with the JustNet Coalition Day event. Can that not
>>     be avoided?
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Anriette
>>
>>     -----------------------------
>>     Anriette Esterhuysen
>>     Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic planning
>>     Association for Progressive Communications
>>     apc.org <http://apc.org>
>>     afrisig.org <http://afrisig.org>
>>     anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>
>>
>>     On 2019/05/23 11:24, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>     Dear all,
>>>
>>>     Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to
>>>     plan the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details
>>>     below:
>>>
>>>       * Room Dougga
>>>       * June 11, _9am-12:30pm _
>>>       * Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>
>>>     If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to
>>>     be part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to
>>>     meet before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who
>>>     expressed interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>
>>>     Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>
>>>     Best
>>>     Sheetal.
>>>     -- 
>>>
>>>     On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Dear all, 
>>>
>>>         Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>         off-thread expressing interest in the effort. 
>>>
>>>         @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space
>>>         at the RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful
>>>         if not! Will you be at RightsCon?
>>>
>>>         On the way forward:
>>>
>>>           * Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would
>>>             like to attend that first meeting as there is limited
>>>             space but of course we'd like to accommodate everyone
>>>             who can attend
>>>           * If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then
>>>             please do get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping
>>>             everyone updated and you can input into the meeting
>>>             agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have good wifi)
>>>
>>>         Best
>>>         Sheetal.
>>>
>>>         On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov
>>>         <ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear all,
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could
>>>             inquire if we could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it
>>>             takes place.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Please let me know.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Bach Avezdjanov
>>>
>>>             Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>
>>>             Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu <mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>              
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>             [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>] *On Behalf
>>>             Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>             *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>             Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt <
>>>             governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>             <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance;
>>>             Sheetal Kumar
>>>             *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>             survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Hi,
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in
>>>             Hyderabad where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights
>>>             and the DC on Internet Principles had a joint meeting to
>>>             discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic Coalition on
>>>             Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to
>>>             the creation and translation of the Charter on Internet
>>>             Rights and Principles among other positive outcomes. 
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward
>>>             out of this; ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to
>>>             help energize also the cross-CS coordination right? 
>>>
>>>             Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset
>>>             and methods embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal
>>>             faculty meeting feel (at times to this prof).
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>             *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>             <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>> on behalf
>>>             of Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>             <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>             *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>             *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian
>>>             muthusamy; Akinremi Peter Taiwo;
>>>             bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>             <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt <
>>>             governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>             <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; governance
>>>             *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from
>>>             survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Dear all
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Following our discussions, and some discussions among
>>>             some of  those of us who attended the last call four
>>>             weeks ago (notes & participants here: 
>>>             https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture),
>>>             see below what some of us propose as a hopefully
>>>             straightforward plan going forward.
>>>
>>>               * IGC and Bestbits list members work together to
>>>                 organise a day 0 event at IGF
>>>               * Volunteers from both lists come together in an
>>>                 informal steering committee to organise the event -
>>>                 you don't have to identify as 'Bestbits'/IGC
>>>                 necessarily and can agree how to approach the
>>>                 organisation of the event however they see fit
>>>               * Members of other lists are invited to join once an
>>>                 informal agenda has been put together
>>>               * Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in
>>>                 this effort come together to discuss preliminary
>>>                 ideas - to include the idea of focusing the day 0
>>>                 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have
>>>                 already been proposed)
>>>
>>>             Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound
>>>             like we've now decided to just organise a meeting again
>>>             I hope you will agree that the discussions had so far,
>>>             the interest and commitment to global level
>>>             coordination, would be usefully served by collectively
>>>             putting together an agenda that responds to the
>>>             interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Please provide your views on this.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Best
>>>
>>>             Sheetal.
>>>
>>>              
>>>
>>>             On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar
>>>             <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Dear all,
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once
>>>                 I have the recording I'll send it around. In the
>>>                 meantime, you can see a short summary at the top of
>>>                 the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but
>>>                 it should provide an overview of what we discussed:
>>>                 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>                 <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 In essence, we discussed the reasons that these
>>>                 discussions about civil society coordination have
>>>                 recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>                 reiterated the commitment to global-level
>>>                 coordination and the need to work together in a less
>>>                 fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>                 discussed the fact that although about half of the
>>>                 respondents supported exploring a 'merger' with IGC,
>>>                 around half also thought expanding the mandate of
>>>                 the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the
>>>                 call mentioned that the historical standing of the
>>>                 IGC is important to leverage and there is
>>>                 complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates.
>>>                 Therefore, we shouldn't lose that in whatever we
>>>                 choose to do going forward.
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 We discussed that proposing something more concrete
>>>                 to the IGC would be helpful in terms of how a
>>>                 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>                 limited number of the people on the call, so we
>>>                 agreed to put something short together and then to
>>>                 share it with you for your feedback before sharing
>>>                 it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that
>>>                 simple proposal to share with you. I'll share it
>>>                 shortly. If anyone else on the call wants to chime
>>>                 in with more information please do.
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 Best
>>>
>>>                 Sheetal.
>>>
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen
>>>                 <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org
>>>                 <mailto:tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust
>>>                     someone will
>>>                     report on the meeting.
>>>
>>>                     Regards,
>>>
>>>                     -- 
>>>                     Tapani Tarvainen
>>>
>>>                     On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar
>>>                     (sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>) wrote:
>>>
>>>                     > Dear all,
>>>                     >
>>>                     > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be
>>>                     meeting in under an hour at 1
>>>                     > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Best
>>>                     > Sheetal.
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Meeting room details
>>>                     >
>>>                     > *Meeting URL*
>>>                     > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Meeting ID
>>>                     > 524 189 381
>>>                     > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>                     > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>                     > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>                     > (see all numbers -
>>>                     https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Connecting from a room system?
>>>                     > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or 199.48.152.152
>>>                     and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>                     >
>>>                     > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar
>>>                     <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     >
>>>                     > > Dear all
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > As promised, please find below the details
>>>                     for meeting us on *Wednesday,
>>>                     > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the
>>>                     agenda further below too.
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Best
>>>                     > > Sheetal.
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Meeting room details
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > *Meeting URL*
>>>                     > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Meeting ID
>>>                     > > 524 189 381
>>>                     > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>                     > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>                     > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>                     > > (see all numbers -
>>>                     https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>                     > > Dial: bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> or
>>>                     199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in
>>>                     the discussion around
>>>                     > > improving coordination are welcome so please
>>>                     share with anyone relevant.
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > Suggested agenda
>>>                     > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this
>>>                     discussion/a recap of what's happened
>>>                     > > so far
>>>                     > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>                     > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>                     > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian
>>>                     muthusamy <
>>>                     > > 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far
>>>                     has reached the participants of
>>>                     > >> the Governance list, especially the
>>>                     thinking that "discussion about
>>>                     > >> merging should be limited to each group". 
>>>                     If riseup.net <http://riseup.net> is working,
>>>                     > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >> Thank you.
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >> Sivasubramanian M
>>>                     <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>                     > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>                     <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi
>>>                     Peter Taiwo <
>>>                     > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>
>>>                     > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>                     > >>>
>>>                     > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying
>>>                     igcaucus.org <http://igcaucus.org> mailbox is not
>>>                     > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently
>>>                     hosted on riseup.net <http://riseup.net>
>>>                     mailing-list.
>>>                     > >>> Please can you help me understand what you
>>>                     are trying to do so as to be
>>>                     > >>> able to help.
>>>                     > >>>
>>>                     > >>> Regards.
>>>                     > >>> Peter
>>>                     > >>>
>>>                     > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM
>>>                     sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>                     > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>
>>>                     > >>>>
>>>                     > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally
>>>                     decided by the Bestbits list to
>>>                     > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note
>>>                     here on a different problem. The
>>>                     > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving
>>>                     messages, who is managing the
>>>                     > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>                     > >>>>
>>>                     > >>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>                     <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>                     > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>                     <http://twitter.com/shivaindia>
>>>                     > >>>>
>>>                     > >>>>
>>>                     > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi
>>>                     Peter Taiwo <
>>>                     > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the
>>>                     survey should be limited to
>>>                     > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion
>>>                     about merging should be limited to
>>>                     > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group
>>>                     to do a kind of an independent
>>>                     > >>>>> assessment that would inform the
>>>                     decision of whether the group should cease
>>>                     > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that
>>>                     some folks on the IGC group wants IGC
>>>                     > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly
>>>                     shared some contacts on the
>>>                     > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the
>>>                     privacy issue you are referring to.
>>>                     > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in
>>>                     the picture of any privacy issue that
>>>                     > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could
>>>                     throw more light on this.
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> I could also remembered during the
>>>                     review of CSCG, part of our
>>>                     > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional
>>>                     civil society organization in the
>>>                     > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the
>>>                     individual wearing many hat remains.
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> Regards.
>>>                     > >>>>> Peter
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM
>>>                     Sivasubramanian M <
>>>                     > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net
>>>                     <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see
>>>                     a limited response, only
>>>                     > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the
>>>                     IGC list?  Possibly the poll
>>>                     > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who
>>>                     are subscribed only to the IGC list.
>>>                     > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message
>>>                     says "future of Bestbits" rather than
>>>                     > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the
>>>                     level of engagement in these
>>>                     > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening
>>>                     civil society coordination, and I know
>>>                     > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not
>>>                     losing motivation. The conversations have
>>>                     > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in
>>>                     changing the current situation
>>>                     > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a
>>>                     coordination network), and
>>>                     > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to
>>>                     strengthen global civil society coordination
>>>                     > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far,
>>>                     and the survey which gathered a
>>>                     > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been
>>>                     helpful. I attached a summary report of
>>>                     > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the
>>>                     last IGF in Paris there was discussion
>>>                     > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this
>>>                     year. Before we do that however, it
>>>                     > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses
>>>                     to the survey and agree a way
>>>                     > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a
>>>                     suggested agenda. It would be
>>>                     > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29
>>>                     March so I can confirm the date and
>>>                     > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>                     > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>                     > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>                     > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your
>>>                     energy and contributions so far!
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal
>>>                     Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who
>>>                     completed the survey. I have
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a
>>>                     text document, with a summary included
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a
>>>                     split call, with the first half
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and
>>>                     suggesting a way forward (45 minutes-1
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed
>>>                     necessary, with IGC founders and other
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange
>>>                     that as a separate call too.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the
>>>                     survey have been to find a way
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society
>>>                     coordination, and thus to change
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope
>>>                     that they help in finding a way
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so
>>>                     doing, responds to the widest possible
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any
>>>                     other suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll
>>>                     send around a doodle for a follow up
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal
>>>                     Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of
>>>                     responses but it would be great
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the
>>>                     future of Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday
>>>                     that would be much appreciated.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle
>>>                     for another call to decide next
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to
>>>                     the survey so thank you to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please
>>>                     do lend your views if you can,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey
>>>                     responses will feed into the next set
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of
>>>                     Bestbits.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on
>>>                     this thread, please see a
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views
>>>                     on the future of Bestbits. Following a
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members
>>>                     of Bestbits, as well as members of IGC, it
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be
>>>                     circulated to gather views of all members.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a
>>>                     background information note which
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the
>>>                     discussions so far, and links to the summaries of
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits
>>>                     mailing list, you are invited to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform
>>>                     future discussions in a timely way, please
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*.
>>>                     Should you have any
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate
>>>                     to get in touch.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who
>>>                     participated in the call yesterday. For
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the
>>>                     call, you'll find the list of participants
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about
>>>                     the possible ways forward for
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the
>>>                     previous conversation in December and the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general
>>>                     agreement that both Bestbits and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges
>>>                     in fulfilling their objectives,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to
>>>                     coordination and we agreed to circulate a
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather
>>>                     perspectives on four suggested ways forward
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call.
>>>                     It was suggested that this survey with
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into
>>>                     a decision on the future of the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be
>>>                     circulated shortly to both lists shortly,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be
>>>                     greatly appreciated.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder
>>>                     that the call on next steps is
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February
>>>                     from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The full
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my
>>>                     previous email and I've updated the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad
>>>                     <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to
>>>                     you then!
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the
>>>                     doodle! It seems the best time
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on
>>>                     February 11*. The full
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including
>>>                     how to join, are below.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting
>>>                     up the room. Looking forward
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you
>>>                     as possible on the 11th!
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC
>>>                     <http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System:
>>>                     bjn.vc <http://bjn.vc> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary,
>>>                     San Jose))
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers -
>>>                     http://bluejeans.com/numbers
>>>                     <http://bluejeans.com/numbers>)
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call
>>>                     in, your phone number will
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room
>>>                     page. We would like to record and share the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network
>>>                     on the mailing list. Please let us know if
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording
>>>                     to be shared on an open mailing list if you
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of
>>>                     the Bestbits and IGC lists,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a
>>>                     merger + other options
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>                     challenges and issues faced in
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>                     merger of lists/establishment
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>                     quo - using lists as information sharing
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>                     steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the
>>>                     lists
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of
>>>                     those who indicated they were available for
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of
>>>                     course, as a Bestbits member you can join the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in
>>>                     the pad, this is just to have a vague idea
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13,
>>>                     Sheetal Kumar <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>                     <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the
>>>                     engagement on this topic, and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have
>>>                     shared their perspectives and the relevant
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the
>>>                     call we agreed to touch base
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January
>>>                     to agree a way forward. The discussions here
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the
>>>                     discussion, and Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space
>>>                     for us.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a
>>>                     doodle for our second call to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a
>>>                     suggested agenda:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of
>>>                     challenges and issues faced
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g
>>>                     merger of lists/establishment
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status
>>>                     quo, e.g using lists as information sharing
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>                     approach
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next
>>>                     steps/agreement on process for
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding
>>>                     future of Bestbits
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who
>>>                     arranged the last call, we
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members
>>>                     are invited but that we also reach out to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide
>>>                     some background and inform the discussion
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the
>>>                     doodle by the end of next
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can
>>>                     set a time and send the conference room link
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10,
>>>                     Deirdre Williams <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com
>>>                     <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this
>>>                     discussion with care, and have a
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which
>>>                     seem to fall in line with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less
>>>                     stopped sharing
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing
>>>                     things/ working together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the
>>>                     two groups again really improve participation?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to
>>>                     look at what needs to be done,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we
>>>                     want to do it?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the
>>>                     same as the people who started
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same
>>>                     objectives, same perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these
>>>                     questions it seems unlikely that
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration
>>>                     please consider IRPC (which many
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which
>>>                     is currently having some difficulty with
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to
>>>                     carry out management tasks for the group.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a
>>>                     means to discuss issues and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is
>>>                     this the right way to do that now or do we need
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09,
>>>                     Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au
>>>                     <mailto:jeremy at malcolm.id.au>> wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal
>>>                     Kumar wrote:
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of
>>>                     the first Steering Committee
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more
>>>                     information about how it was
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse
>>>                     had become toxic and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It
>>>                     had been a while since it had
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement.
>>>                     At the same time, the 2012 ITU
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to
>>>                     collaborate on joint action
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations
>>>                     between people both inside and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming
>>>                     the first volunteer steering
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil
>>>                     society politics that had driven
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to
>>>                     disrupt Best Bits too. There were
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about
>>>                     various participants having
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent
>>>                     enough about their own funding.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been
>>>                     fairly lightweight and
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms
>>>                     of accountability resulted in
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a
>>>                     more elaborate set of rules
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was
>>>                     too heavy and people weren't
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new
>>>                     processes, indicating that the more
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been
>>>                     better.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of
>>>                     willing people who could
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal
>>>                     elections, I'd be all for that. But I
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have
>>>                     given as much time to it as
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing
>>>                     my energy on my new nonprofit
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB
>>>                     (Hons) B Com
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy
>>>                     advocate, geek
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo
>>>                     "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     ____________________________________________________________
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for
>>>                     poverty is not money but
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur
>>>                     Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>                     PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M:
>>>                     +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  |
>>>                     PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1
>>>                     CF31|
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL
>>>                     PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury
>>>                     Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>                     DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> --
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street,
>>>                     London, E1 5JL
>>>                     > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44
>>>                     (0)7739569514  |
>>>                     > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP
>>>                     Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>                     > >>>>>>>
>>>                     > >>>>>>>
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>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > --
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > >
>>>                     > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>                     > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London,
>>>                     E1 5JL
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>>>                     > >
>>>                     >
>>>                     > --
>>>                     >
>>>                     >
>>>                     > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>                     > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>                     > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
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>>>                 -- 
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>>>                 *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>
>>>                 Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>
>>>                 Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>                 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
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>>>
>>>             -- 
>>>
>>>              
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>>>              
>>>
>>>             *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>
>>>             Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>
>>>             Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>
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>>>             173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         *
>>>         *
>>>         *
>>>         *
>>>         *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>         Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>         Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>         T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>         PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>         E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>     *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>     Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>     Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>     PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>     0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
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