[governance] IGF 2020 to be held in Poland

Wed Jun 5 11:32:36 EDT 2019

Thanks for the explanation Arsene, I understand. It's frustrating, but they
also can't force countries to bid for it.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 5:27 PM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The rotation has been widely discussed today at the MAG meeting
> because so many of us were not happy to have yet another IGF happening
> in Europe.
>
> But the UNDESA and the IGF Secretariat mentioned that they are doing
> everything they can to ensure other countries are biding in but they
> only receive few interested countries.
>
> On a question I raised about the requirements, it was noted that there
> is a strong financial expectation from the host, which is supposed to
> cover ALL the expenses related to putting together an IGF. And this is
> between 2-3 millions USD (less, if the event is to be held at the UN
> office).
>
> So, a lot to say... But for now, people should get ready for Poland!
>
> 2019-06-05 12:53 UTC+03:00, Nouradine Abdelkerim <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> > hello and mabrouk al eid the problem to link to visas it really touches
> us
> > africans of an african postulate for a visas to attend a forum or
> training
> > the consular service will believe that him when he issued the visa he
> does
> > not want  not return to your country of origin so that in strategic
> > meetings of icann, Igf or any of its meetings you will not see many
> > Africans attending. by how you want Africa to advance while some
> decisions
> > that you unanimously decide to really concern our dear continent.Then
> > meditate on this problem bind to visas and sea.
> >
> > Le mer. 5 juin 2019 à 10:35, "Michael J. Oghia"
> > <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> > a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi Mawaki, all:
> >>
> >> No need to apologise or call it a rant. It's a very fair point, and I
> >> appreciate your articulation. As someone who lives in Europe and
> >> undoubtedly benefits from having the IGF hosted on the continent, I am
> >> also
> >> frustrated that – assuming it's already been decided – the IGF would be
> >> held yet again in Europe.
> >>
> >> I know that the country where it's held mainly rests on which government
> >> is willing to host it, so I do understand if the options are limited.
> >>
> >> What are the solutions to this?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:26 AM Mawaki Chango
> >> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good point, Abdeldjalil. Geneva, Paris, Berlin and now Poland
> >>> (Varsovie/Warsaw, I guess?) That's four.
> >>> The Schengen visa is such a hassle for so many people, and so time
> >>> consuming! I'm not even talking about getting all the paperwork in
> >>> order.
> >>> One has to secure the interview appointment months and months in
> advance
> >>> and that alone is sometimes enough to cause failure.
> >>>
> >>> And when you manage to get the visa, it only lasts the exact number of
> >>> days planned for your meeting (or whatever the purpose of the visit.)
> >>> And
> >>> even if one knows there's another meeting (say, ICANN) coming up in the
> >>> next few months still in the Schengen space which one needs to attend,
> >>> one
> >>> has to go through all of it again. They won't consider that even if the
> >>> visa paperwork for the next meeting is ready. Certainly not if the two
> >>> consecutive meetings are happening in two different Schengen countries,
> >>> although any Schengen country visa applies to the whole of Schengen
> >>> space.
> >>> I'm not even sure they accept to issue an extended visa in the case the
> >>> two
> >>> meetings were to happen in the same country three or four months apart.
> >>> The
> >>> bureaucracy of sovereignty !
> >>>
> >>> Okay, I guess that was my mid-week rant. Otherwise, I'm looking forward
> >>> to seeing and enjoying Berlin and hopefully Warsaw.
> >>>
> >>> Mawaki
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 08:29 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <bachar at igf.td>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Arsene for sharing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Congratulation for that innovation :knowing the date early .
> >>>> After 3 round I'm Europe we hope that after Poland will be in AFRICA .
> >>>>
> >>>>
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