[governance] IGF 2020 to be held in Poland

Wed Jun 5 11:48:07 EDT 2019

Hi everyone and thank you very much Arsène for this update. I would just
like to remind you to remind UNDESA and the IGF Secretariat that the
principle of equity lies in the foundations of the IGF. It is also their
role to accompany the countries in order to balance, otherwise we would
lead to exclusion.

The problem of VISA is a reality, before, one of the conditions for being a
host country should be to facilitate this in order to allow the
participants to come without discrimination, I would like us to refer to
the example of Egypt in 2009 and Kenya in 2011, it was fantastic.

For funding, it is desirable to remember the spirit that founded the IGF,
it was digital solidarity, a pity for this situation.

Best Regards,

Le mer. 5 juin 2019 à 17:33, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
a écrit :

> Thanks for the explanation Arsene, I understand. It's frustrating, but
> they also can't force countries to bid for it.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 5:27 PM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The rotation has been widely discussed today at the MAG meeting
>> because so many of us were not happy to have yet another IGF happening
>> in Europe.
>>
>> But the UNDESA and the IGF Secretariat mentioned that they are doing
>> everything they can to ensure other countries are biding in but they
>> only receive few interested countries.
>>
>> On a question I raised about the requirements, it was noted that there
>> is a strong financial expectation from the host, which is supposed to
>> cover ALL the expenses related to putting together an IGF. And this is
>> between 2-3 millions USD (less, if the event is to be held at the UN
>> office).
>>
>> So, a lot to say... But for now, people should get ready for Poland!
>>
>> 2019-06-05 12:53 UTC+03:00, Nouradine Abdelkerim <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
>> > hello and mabrouk al eid the problem to link to visas it really touches
>> us
>> > africans of an african postulate for a visas to attend a forum or
>> training
>> > the consular service will believe that him when he issued the visa he
>> does
>> > not want  not return to your country of origin so that in strategic
>> > meetings of icann, Igf or any of its meetings you will not see many
>> > Africans attending. by how you want Africa to advance while some
>> decisions
>> > that you unanimously decide to really concern our dear continent.Then
>> > meditate on this problem bind to visas and sea.
>> >
>> > Le mer. 5 juin 2019 à 10:35, "Michael J. Oghia"
>> > <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> > a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Hi Mawaki, all:
>> >>
>> >> No need to apologise or call it a rant. It's a very fair point, and I
>> >> appreciate your articulation. As someone who lives in Europe and
>> >> undoubtedly benefits from having the IGF hosted on the continent, I am
>> >> also
>> >> frustrated that – assuming it's already been decided – the IGF would be
>> >> held yet again in Europe.
>> >>
>> >> I know that the country where it's held mainly rests on which
>> government
>> >> is willing to host it, so I do understand if the options are limited.
>> >>
>> >> What are the solutions to this?
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:26 AM Mawaki Chango
>> >> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Good point, Abdeldjalil. Geneva, Paris, Berlin and now Poland
>> >>> (Varsovie/Warsaw, I guess?) That's four.
>> >>> The Schengen visa is such a hassle for so many people, and so time
>> >>> consuming! I'm not even talking about getting all the paperwork in
>> >>> order.
>> >>> One has to secure the interview appointment months and months in
>> advance
>> >>> and that alone is sometimes enough to cause failure.
>> >>>
>> >>> And when you manage to get the visa, it only lasts the exact number of
>> >>> days planned for your meeting (or whatever the purpose of the visit.)
>> >>> And
>> >>> even if one knows there's another meeting (say, ICANN) coming up in
>> the
>> >>> next few months still in the Schengen space which one needs to attend,
>> >>> one
>> >>> has to go through all of it again. They won't consider that even if
>> the
>> >>> visa paperwork for the next meeting is ready. Certainly not if the two
>> >>> consecutive meetings are happening in two different Schengen
>> countries,
>> >>> although any Schengen country visa applies to the whole of Schengen
>> >>> space.
>> >>> I'm not even sure they accept to issue an extended visa in the case
>> the
>> >>> two
>> >>> meetings were to happen in the same country three or four months
>> apart.
>> >>> The
>> >>> bureaucracy of sovereignty !
>> >>>
>> >>> Okay, I guess that was my mid-week rant. Otherwise, I'm looking
>> forward
>> >>> to seeing and enjoying Berlin and hopefully Warsaw.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mawaki
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 08:29 Abdeldjalil Bachar Bong <bachar at igf.td>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks Arsene for sharing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Congratulation for that innovation :knowing the date early .
>> >>>> After 3 round I'm Europe we hope that after Poland will be in AFRICA
>> .
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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