[governance] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF - World Economic Forum (WEF) Collaboration Discussion Document

[Judith Hellerstein]

Hi all, 

I agree with both Mawaki and Farzi on this. Not sure why WEF is not the body asking this question 

Best 
Judith 

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> On Feb 10, 2019, at 5:20 AM, Mawaki Chango (via governance Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> Good point, Farzaneh!
> I would add, nothing prevents anyone from engaging actively in the proceedings of the IGF or from building on its outcomes. Now to specifically ask for collaboration, WEF should be the one answering those questions put forward in the document : for what purpose, exactly? What are they hoping to achieve through that collaboration, which could not be achieved by simply engaging with the open process of the IGF on "equal footing" just like any other stakeholder?
> 
> Mawaki 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 3:03 AM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net wrote:
>> Thanks Arsene. 
>> 
>> I am not supportive of this idea. As we have been arguing, the Internet Governance Forum is a forum which many organizations, from various stakeholders, contribute to.  Why should we start in an arbitrary haphazard way "collaborating" with other organizations and why should it be "WEF"?
>> 
>> Here are the questions asked in the document you shared:
>> 
>> We would like to hear your thoughts or reactions, e.g.:
>>  Supportive?
>>  What would be a useful collaboration in your mind?
>>  What topics would you prioritise?
>>  What challenges or risks would need to be managed?
>> 
>> My answer is: not supportive
>> 
>> I suggest the MAG chair preserve neutrality in this matter. 
>> 
>> Best 
>> 
>> 
>> Farzaneh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:34 AM parminder <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> We may meanwhile also make inquires if the IGF MAG has also considered possible closer collaboration with the World Social Forum? Or even heard of it?
>>> 
>>> Or is the global elite the only port of call and potential partner for everyone, given of course that they are super rich ,and it is quite valuable to be with, and on the side of, the super rich. 
>>> 
>>> Would this 'civil society' group like to assess - internally, or if it feels constained vis a vis various resources to do so, take the help of external civil society groups -- about what much of global society thinks of the WEF and associates it with ..
>>> 
>>> It is not that long back that a good part of IG civil society warmly embraced  the conspiracy to carry the global anchor of Internet governance to the WEF, via the WEF / ICANN led Net Mundial Initiative (different from the Net Mundial Conference in Brazil)..... And if that effort failed it had almost nothing to do with any resistance from the civil society, which most (outsiders) may have thought would be the case, but bec of combination of very different reasons, the technical community resisted (god bless them!), there was internal big business associations rivalry (WEF vrs ICC), and  most developing country govs did not show any enthusiasm. That was an inglorious chapter in IG civil society's history... Interesting that people are exploring going down such a route again....
>>> 
>>> parminder 
>>> 
>>> PS; pardon the cynical tone, but could find no better way to make this intensely political point. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Meant to share this document here to have your thoughts about the
>>>> collaboration between the IGF and WEF that MAG Chair is pushing for.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to hear your thoughts on the questions mentionned at the
>>>> last page of the document.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Lynn St.Amour" <Lynn at internet-matters.org>
>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:32:46 -0500
>>>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] IGF - World Economic Forum (WEF) Collaboration
>>>> Discussion Document
>>>> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>>> Cc: Derek O'Halloran <Derek.OHalloran at weforum.org>
>>>> 
>>>> Dear MAG members,
>>>> 
>>>> please find below a document in support of a discussion on possible
>>>> ways to increase collaboration between the IGF community and the World
>>>> Economic Forum (WEF).  It builds on past collaborative efforts and is
>>>> in support of Agenda item 4 in the IGF Open Consultation meeting:
>>>> "Updates from related Internet Governance initiatives and processes,
>>>> followed by open discussion on possible IGF 2019
>>>> activities/collaboration”.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you to Derek O’Halloran and the WEF staff for their help
>>>> creating this document.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Lynn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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