[governance] Statement by IGC on Huan Qi's sentencing

Sun Aug 4 01:25:33 EDT 2019

Sorry about what happened to your family,
Srajukanimuri. Thank you for sharing your opinions and views with us.

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 5:52 am srajukanumuri, <srajukanumuri at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear one and all
>
> Suppression is happening all over the world .each country tells their own
> story . If we ask any thing they will talk past genocides wars invasion
> colonial wars cyber attacks trade wars weapons of mass distruction
> occupying other countries like our own lands biz in our neighborhood crate
> race religion wars poor rich wars etc divide and rule .
>
> Democracies vs Communists vs left vs right vs plutocrats vs trade wars vs
> super power .
>
> In all countries internally so many innocemts are getting killed by gun
> voilance , land mafia , real estate mafia criminal acts corruption looting
> factionists naxalites dacoits  etc poverty drugs poor man made wars
> greediness etc making humans like barbarians animals to kill each other
> cheat other arrest innocemts etc
>
> World is flat made humanity forgetting about values ethics etc
>
> All humans are one 1st they are good humans respect each other love each
> other honer each other with equal development individual nation sovergnty
> freedom survival .
>
> All over world human rights are treated differently and also problems .
>
> Today. Criminals corrupt mafia linked poltical parties are ruling
> countries they are making creating terror in various means for power .
> Make slaves for ever .
>
> Even earth climate countries happiness gone they are continuing same acts
> of suppression arrests or stamping Innocents as criminals crooks terrorists
> in the process others are also effecting they are also becoming fighting
> for justice or becoming killers .
>
> Creators are distroyres.  In all countries no proper justice for suffering
> families honest good poor middle class .
>
> Entire humanity must pray  for good people rights people support voice for
> them or request governments to respect their own honest citizens
> intelctuals visionaries etc
>
> In India also so many Innocents freedom fighters scientists families anti
> corruption activists innovators families killed suppressed by poltical
> system judiciary police etc greedy societies humans are root cause for
> humanity problems earth issues like home country issues .
>
> Who is good bad ugly crooks criminals suppressors dictators etc only
> humanity must decide and lastly peace is important non voilance non
> exploiting is important for survival .
>
> Let world leaders think once again for peace and prosperity of their
> citizens and also rights activists.
>
> Sit with them think broadly have common actions thoughts idieas vision
> dreams about future ..
>
> With gratitude to humanity goodness rights of life on mother Earth.
>
> Note :  my family came freedom fighters scientists families. But my
> parents rights activists killed by poltical parties police judiciary etc
> these same guys are leaders ministers etc who are doing biz world wide
> including usa Europe China Africa Belgrade gulf Singapore etc illegal
> mining to so many countries red sandal wood smuggling to China etc  same
> story in all countries . resources looting ward suppression money power
> have villas hatch's billions in pocket have safe tax Haven's to park looted
> money gold diamonds people money government money banks stock markets
> compdities fake real estate etc
>
> humanity earth life re booting re thinking as good honest only matters.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 9:35 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh I am glad you noticed that Farzaneh - our credibility for having
>> independent inputs is ruined if we either deliberately or accidentally
>> adopt such statements which fully mimic any government.
>>
>> Here is the wording of the US statement - more than just the opening
>> paragraph, whole sections of our proposed wording are identical. WTF.....
>>
>> *"The United States is deeply concerned by the sentencing of online
>> activist Huang Qi to 12 years in prison. Huang has been honored multiple
>> times by Reporters Without Borders for his courage in exposing corruption
>> and human rights violations in China through his website, 64 Tianwang.*
>>
>> *The imprisonment of Huang Qi underscores China’s continued repression of
>> human rights and fundamental freedoms, including free speech.  We urge the
>> Chinese government to uphold its international commitments related to fair
>> trial guarantees and the rule of law.  We call on China to immediately
>> release Mr. Huang, and to allow him access to his family, medical care, and
>> legal counsel as soon as possible. We also call on China to end undue
>> restrictions on the freedom of movement of his family and those who
>> assisted him."*
>> So I oppose repitition of any of these sentences or phrases. We can echo
>> the sentiments if we are in agreement with them, but our statement must be
>> our statement, not a copy of that of any government..
>>
>> Ian Peter
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "farzaneh badii" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> To: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
>> Cc: "David Allen" <david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu>; "Marie Georges" <
>> ma.georges at orange.fr>; "Norbert Bollow" <nb at bollow.ch>; "governance" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net>; "ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <
>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>> Sent: 4/08/2019 12:14:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Statement by IGC on Huan Qi's sentencing
>>
>> The first paragraph is almost a copy paste of the US  statement. We can't
>> just work on a "draft" that someone else has issued already. This needs to
>> be redrafted from scratch should we want to issue a statement.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:33 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> This revised draft captures some of Chaitanya and Ian's input and
>>> suggested edits. Please review and comment.
>>>
>>> Revised Draft 4th August, 2019
>>>
>>> *Proposed Draft*
>>>
>>> The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus is deeply concerned by the
>>> sentencing of online activist Huang Qi to 12 years in prison.  Huang has
>>> been honoured multiple times by Reporters Without Borders for his courage
>>> in exposing corruption and human rights violations in China through his
>>> website, 64 Tianwang.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Huang Qi has greatly strengthened China as a country by bringing to the
>>> foreground these good governance issues including but not limited to
>>> corruption & human rights. It is our view that Huang Qi should be honoured
>>> as a strong contributor to society.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We urge the Chinese government to uphold its international commitments
>>> related to fair trial guarantees and the rule of law.  We call on China to
>>> immediately release Mr. Huang, and to allow him access to his family,
>>> medical care, and legal counsel as soon as possible.  We also call on China
>>> to end undue restrictions on the freedom of movement of his family and
>>> those who assisted him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We note that China is a member of the United Nations Human Rights
>>> Council this year. The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus calls on
>>> China to aspire to subscribe to the Charter of the Internet Rights and
>>> Principles which was developed by the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights
>>> and Principles within the Internet Governance Forum and is available on the
>>> OHCHR website.
>>>
>>>
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