<div dir="auto">Sorry about what happened to your family,<div dir="auto">Srajukanimuri. Thank you for sharing your opinions and views with us.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 4 Aug 2019, 5:52 am srajukanumuri, <<a href="mailto:srajukanumuri@gmail.com">srajukanumuri@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Dear one and all <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Suppression is happening all over the world .each country tells their own story . If we ask any thing they will talk past genocides wars invasion colonial wars cyber attacks trade wars weapons of mass distruction occupying other countries like our own lands biz in our neighborhood crate race religion wars poor rich wars etc divide and rule .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Democracies vs Communists vs left vs right vs plutocrats vs trade wars vs super power .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In all countries internally so many innocemts are getting killed by gun voilance , land mafia , real estate mafia criminal acts corruption looting factionists naxalites dacoits etc poverty drugs poor man made wars greediness etc making humans like barbarians animals to kill each other cheat other arrest innocemts etc </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">World is flat made humanity forgetting about values ethics etc </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All humans are one 1st they are good humans respect each other love each other honer each other with equal development individual nation sovergnty freedom survival .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All over world human rights are treated differently and also problems . </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Today. Criminals corrupt mafia linked poltical parties are ruling countries they are making creating terror in various means for power .</div><div dir="auto">Make slaves for ever .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even earth climate countries happiness gone they are continuing same acts of suppression arrests or stamping Innocents as criminals crooks terrorists in the process others are also effecting they are also becoming fighting for justice or becoming killers . </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Creators are distroyres. In all countries no proper justice for suffering families honest good poor middle class . </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Entire humanity must pray for good people rights people support voice for them or request governments to respect their own honest citizens intelctuals visionaries etc </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In India also so many Innocents freedom fighters scientists families anti corruption activists innovators families killed suppressed by poltical system judiciary police etc greedy societies humans are root cause for humanity problems earth issues like home country issues .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Who is good bad ugly crooks criminals suppressors dictators etc only humanity must decide and lastly peace is important non voilance non exploiting is important for survival .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Let world leaders think once again for peace and prosperity of their citizens and also rights activists.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sit with them think broadly have common actions thoughts idieas vision dreams about future ..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With gratitude to humanity goodness rights of life on mother Earth.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Note : my family came freedom fighters scientists families. But my parents rights activists killed by poltical parties police judiciary etc these same guys are leaders ministers etc who are doing biz world wide including usa Europe China Africa Belgrade gulf Singapore etc illegal mining to so many countries red sandal wood smuggling to China etc same story in all countries . resources looting ward suppression money power have villas hatch's billions in pocket have safe tax Haven's to park looted money gold diamonds people money government money banks stock markets compdities fake real estate etc </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">humanity earth life re booting re thinking as good honest only matters. </div><div dir="auto"> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 9:35 AM <a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Oh I am glad you noticed that Farzaneh - our credibility for having independent inputs is ruined if we either deliberately or accidentally adopt such statements which fully mimic any government.</div><div><br></div><div>Here is the wording of the US statement - more than just the opening paragraph, whole sections of our proposed wording are identical. WTF.....</div><div><br></div><div><div>
<p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 26px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><i>"The United States is deeply concerned by the sentencing of online activist Huang Qi to 12 years in prison. Huang has been honored multiple times by Reporters Without Borders for his courage in exposing corruption and human rights violations in China through his website, 64 Tianwang.</i></p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 26px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><i>The imprisonment of Huang Qi underscores China’s continued repression of human rights and fundamental freedoms, including free speech. We urge the Chinese government to uphold its international commitments related to fair trial guarantees and the rule of law. We call on China to immediately release Mr. Huang, and to allow him access to his family, medical care, and legal counsel as soon as possible. We also call on China to end undue restrictions on the freedom of movement of his family and those who assisted him."</i></p></div></div>
<div>So I oppose repitition of any of these sentences or phrases. We can echo the sentiments if we are in agreement with them, but our statement must be our statement, not a copy of that of any government..</div><div><br></div><div>Ian Peter</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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<div>From: "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a></div>
<div>Cc: "David Allen" <<a href="mailto:david_allen_ab63@post.harvard.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">david_allen_ab63@post.harvard.edu</a>>; "Marie Georges" <<a href="mailto:ma.georges@orange.fr" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ma.georges@orange.fr</a>>; "Norbert Bollow" <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>>; "governance" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 4/08/2019 12:14:43 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [governance] Statement by IGC on Huan Qi's sentencing</div><div><br></div>
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<div><div dir="auto">The first paragraph is almost a copy paste of the US statement. We can't just work on a "draft" that someone else has issued already. This needs to be redrafted from scratch should we want to issue a statement. </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:33 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div><br></div><div>This revised draft captures some of Chaitanya and Ian's input and suggested edits. Please review and comment.</div><div><br></div><div>Revised Draft 4th August, 2019</div><div><br></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"><b>Proposed Draft</b><span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus is deeply concerned
by the sentencing of online activist Huang Qi to 12 years in prison.
Huang has been honoured multiple times by Reporters Without Borders for his
courage in exposing corruption and human rights violations in China through his
website, 64 Tianwang.<span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"> Huang Qi has greatly strengthened China as
a country by bringing to the foreground these good governance issues including
but not limited to corruption & human rights. It is our view that Huang Qi
should be honoured as a strong contributor to society. <span></span></font></p></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">We urge the Chinese government to uphold its international
commitments related to fair trial guarantees and the rule of law. We call
on China to immediately release Mr. Huang, and to allow him access to his
family, medical care, and legal counsel as soon as possible. We also call
on China to end undue restrictions on the freedom of movement of his family and
those who assisted him.<span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">We note that China is a member of the United Nations Human
Rights Council this year. The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus calls on
China to aspire to subscribe to the Charter of the Internet Rights and
Principles which was developed by the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and
Principles within the Internet Governance Forum and is available on the OHCHR
website. </font><span></span></p>
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