[governance] Voting Process for election of co coordinators

Thu Aug 29 10:20:00 EDT 2019

That's interesting, Norbert.  You seem to mean I'll be known to have
subscribed to the charter in the course of time, through how I participate
in IGC.  Is that right?

@DrCPUNjoku

 We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,

especially if they're not yielding optimum results.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:43 PM Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:

> Dear Chris and all
>
> My understanding of the word "subscribe" in this context is that it
> expresses a commitment to accept actions which are done in accordance
> with the Charter, and to act oneself in accordance to the Charter.
>
> In this sense I can subscribe to the Charter while at the same time
> holding the opinion that it would be good to change some aspects of
> it at the next good opportunity to do so.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
>
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 12:30:47 +0100
> Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote:
>
> > Thank you so much, Ian, for answering my question. I'm OK with your
> > answer.
> >
> > Regarding Imran's suggestion, I understand the word "subscribe" in
> > this context as meaning "agree".  In that case, it's not vague.  What
> > I think may need to be specified in the charter is how someone will
> > be known to have agreed.  What do other IGCians think?
> >
> >
> > @DrCPUNjoku
> >
> >  We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,
> >
> > especially if they're not yielding optimum results.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:37 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
> > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion Imran - while I like your wording
> > > suggestions the current wording is based on an excerpt from the
> > > Charter which it might be best to leave intact -
> > >
> > > "Members of the Internet Governance Caucus are individuals, acting
> > > in personal capacity, who subscribe to the charter of the caucus" -
> > > but some additional elaboration might be useful. Will have a look
> > > at it.
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Imran Ahmed Shah" <ias_pk at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng>; "
> > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> > > Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>; "Tapani Tarvainen"
> > > < tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>
> > > Sent: 29/08/2019 3:09:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [governance] Voting Process for election of co
> > > coordinators
> > >
> > > Dear Ian,
> > >
> > > With reference to following voting Process, is it possible to
> > > elaborate the meaning of "Subscribe to the Charter" in simple
> > > words? like this:
> > >
> > > "...*they acknowledge the acceptance of the IGC Charter, *and the
> > > By-Laws defined in the IGC Charter"
> > > or more simply
> > >
> > > "...*they accept the IGC Charter*"
> > >
> > > *    instead of *
> > > "...*they subscribe to the charter of IGC*"
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Imran Ahmed Shah
> > > being a IGC Member
> > >
> > > On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 05:45:08 GMT+5, ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> > > < ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris for the feedback
> > >
> > > >The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "they have
> > > >not
> > > previously voted in this election".  Shouldn't the voting software
> > > be able to know that someone had already voted
> > >  > and disallow a second attempt?
> > >
> > > Yes it would - but it could be that some people have more than one
> > > email address registered on list - so this reminds people to think
> > > about whether they have voted before using another email address.
> > > Similarly the software should pick up that they have been
> > > subscribed to list for more than 2 months - so the inclusion of
> > > that question is also more precautionary rather than necessary.  It
> > > wont hurt for people to understand and affirm the conditions for
> > > voting.
> > >
> > > Ian Peter
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng>
> > > To: "ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> > > Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>; "Tapani Tarvainen"
> > > < tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>
> > > Sent: 29/08/2019 10:33:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [governance] Voting Process for election of co
> > > coordinators
> > >
> > > This is awesome, an excellent show of commitment to work and
> > > attention to detail.
> > >
> > > The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "they have not
> > > previously voted in this election".  fo Shouldn't the voting
> > > software be able to know that someone had already voted and
> > > disallow a second attempt?
> > >
> > > On Thursday, August 29, 2019, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
> > > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is some background on the election process for those
> > > interested:
> > >
> > > At this stage we envisage nominations closing on September 5, and
> > > after that a short period where candidates can confirm their
> > > nominations and supply 300 word statements for the benefit of
> > > voters.
> > >
> > > Election software is currently being prepared and will be tested by
> > > a small group between now and September 10.
> > >
> > > On September 10 (approx) voting will commence, and run for
> > > approximately 2 weeks.
> > >
> > > Each email address on the IGC mailing list for 2 months or more will
> > > receive an individual email when voting is ready to commence, which
> > > contains a link to click on to participate in voting. The link is
> > > registered to that email address – so is not transferable. We will
> > > follow up on anyone who for any reason does not receive the voting
> > > link.
> > >
> > > The voting process will firstly ask people to confirm that
> > >
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    they identify as civil society
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    they subscribe to the charter of IGC
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    they have not previously voted in this election
> > >    -
> > >
> > >    they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2
> > > months
> > >
> > >
> > > To proceed to voting, participants must answer positively to all
> > > these questions. They are not eligible to vote otherwise.
> > >
> > > For those who are eligible, they will now be directed to the voting
> > > page.
> > >
> > > The page consists of a list of each candidate, and also the option
> > > “None of the above” . The order of candidates will be decided by
> > > drawing names from a hat.
> > >
> > > A valid vote could be
> > >
> > > a. selecting one candidates
> > >
> > > b selecting two candidates
> > >
> > >    1.
> > >
> > >    selecting “None of the Above”
> > >
> > > All other combinations (more than two candidates ticked, no options
> > > ticked) will create invalid votes.
> > >
> > > Please note: The “none of the above” option is important: because
> > > it is only by participating in the election that someone can become
> > > a current member of IGC. So someone can become a member without
> > > expressing support for any particular candidate if they so wish.
> > >
> > > All of this will be clearly explained on the voting page.
> > >
> > > After you have completed your vote, you will receive a follow up
> > > email confirming your participation and membership of IGC.
> > >
> > > At the close of elections, the returning officers will announce
> > > results and overall vote totals: plus any other relevant
> > > information about informal votes etc. New co coordinators can then
> > > take their place for their respective terms..
> > >
> > > Also at that time we will have a valid and up to date list of IGC
> > > members (for the first time in years). That will enable actions
> > > like appointing an Appeals Team to take place according to
> > > processes outlined in the Charter.
> > >
> > > That's it in a nutshell: everything should be straightforward when
> > > you receive the voting slip, but we will post follow up messages on
> > > list and reminders during the process. Myself and Tapani will also
> > > be available to deal with any queries and anomalies.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Chris Prince Udochukwu *Njọkụ*, Ph.D.
> > > Computer Communications Centre
> > > University of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001
> > > @DrCPUNjoku
> > >
> > >  We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,
> > >
> > > especially if they're not yielding optimum results.
> > >
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