[governance] Voting Process for election of co coordinators

Norbert Bollow nb at bollow.ch
Thu Aug 29 07:43:28 EDT 2019


Dear Chris and all

My understanding of the word "subscribe" in this context is that it
expresses a commitment to accept actions which are done in accordance
with the Charter, and to act oneself in accordance to the Charter.

In this sense I can subscribe to the Charter while at the same time
holding the opinion that it would be good to change some aspects of
it at the next good opportunity to do so.

Greetings, 
Norbert


On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 12:30:47 +0100
Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote:

> Thank you so much, Ian, for answering my question. I'm OK with your
> answer.
> 
> Regarding Imran's suggestion, I understand the word "subscribe" in
> this context as meaning "agree".  In that case, it's not vague.  What
> I think may need to be specified in the charter is how someone will
> be known to have agreed.  What do other IGCians think?
> 
> 
> @DrCPUNjoku
> 
>  We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,
> 
> especially if they're not yielding optimum results.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:37 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:  
> 
> > Thanks for the suggestion Imran - while I like your wording
> > suggestions the current wording is based on an excerpt from the
> > Charter which it might be best to leave intact -
> >
> > "Members of the Internet Governance Caucus are individuals, acting
> > in personal capacity, who subscribe to the charter of the caucus" -
> > but some additional elaboration might be useful. Will have a look
> > at it.
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: "Imran Ahmed Shah" <ias_pk at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng>; "
> > ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> > Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>; "Tapani Tarvainen"
> > < tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>  
> > Sent: 29/08/2019 3:09:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [governance] Voting Process for election of co
> > coordinators
> >
> > Dear Ian,
> >
> > With reference to following voting Process, is it possible to
> > elaborate the meaning of "Subscribe to the Charter" in simple
> > words? like this:
> >
> > "...*they acknowledge the acceptance of the IGC Charter, *and the
> > By-Laws defined in the IGC Charter"
> > or more simply
> >
> > "...*they accept the IGC Charter*"
> >
> > *    instead of *
> > "...*they subscribe to the charter of IGC*"
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Imran Ahmed Shah
> > being a IGC Member
> >
> > On Thursday, 29 August 2019, 05:45:08 GMT+5, ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> > < ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:  
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris for the feedback
> >  
> > >The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "they have
> > >not  
> > previously voted in this election".  Shouldn't the voting software
> > be able to know that someone had already voted  
> >  > and disallow a second attempt?  
> >
> > Yes it would - but it could be that some people have more than one
> > email address registered on list - so this reminds people to think
> > about whether they have voted before using another email address.
> > Similarly the software should pick up that they have been
> > subscribed to list for more than 2 months - so the inclusion of
> > that question is also more precautionary rather than necessary.  It
> > wont hurt for people to understand and affirm the conditions for
> > voting.
> >
> > Ian Peter
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ" <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng>
> > To: "ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> > Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>; "Tapani Tarvainen"
> > < tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>  
> > Sent: 29/08/2019 10:33:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Voting Process for election of co
> > coordinators
> >
> > This is awesome, an excellent show of commitment to work and
> > attention to detail.
> >
> > The following clause sparked a question in my mind: "they have not
> > previously voted in this election".  fo Shouldn't the voting
> > software be able to know that someone had already voted and
> > disallow a second attempt?
> >
> > On Thursday, August 29, 2019, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <  
> > ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:  
> >
> > This is some background on the election process for those
> > interested:
> >
> > At this stage we envisage nominations closing on September 5, and
> > after that a short period where candidates can confirm their
> > nominations and supply 300 word statements for the benefit of
> > voters.
> >
> > Election software is currently being prepared and will be tested by
> > a small group between now and September 10.
> >
> > On September 10 (approx) voting will commence, and run for
> > approximately 2 weeks.
> >
> > Each email address on the IGC mailing list for 2 months or more will
> > receive an individual email when voting is ready to commence, which
> > contains a link to click on to participate in voting. The link is
> > registered to that email address – so is not transferable. We will
> > follow up on anyone who for any reason does not receive the voting
> > link.
> >
> > The voting process will firstly ask people to confirm that
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    they identify as civil society
> >    -
> >
> >    they subscribe to the charter of IGC
> >    -
> >
> >    they have not previously voted in this election
> >    -
> >
> >    they have been subscribed to IGC mailing list for more than 2
> > months
> >
> >
> > To proceed to voting, participants must answer positively to all
> > these questions. They are not eligible to vote otherwise.
> >
> > For those who are eligible, they will now be directed to the voting
> > page.
> >
> > The page consists of a list of each candidate, and also the option
> > “None of the above” . The order of candidates will be decided by
> > drawing names from a hat.
> >
> > A valid vote could be
> >
> > a. selecting one candidates
> >
> > b selecting two candidates
> >
> >    1.
> >
> >    selecting “None of the Above”
> >
> > All other combinations (more than two candidates ticked, no options
> > ticked) will create invalid votes.
> >
> > Please note: The “none of the above” option is important: because
> > it is only by participating in the election that someone can become
> > a current member of IGC. So someone can become a member without
> > expressing support for any particular candidate if they so wish.
> >
> > All of this will be clearly explained on the voting page.
> >
> > After you have completed your vote, you will receive a follow up
> > email confirming your participation and membership of IGC.
> >
> > At the close of elections, the returning officers will announce
> > results and overall vote totals: plus any other relevant
> > information about informal votes etc. New co coordinators can then
> > take their place for their respective terms..
> >
> > Also at that time we will have a valid and up to date list of IGC
> > members (for the first time in years). That will enable actions
> > like appointing an Appeals Team to take place according to
> > processes outlined in the Charter.
> >
> > That's it in a nutshell: everything should be straightforward when
> > you receive the voting slip, but we will post follow up messages on
> > list and reminders during the process. Myself and Tapani will also
> > be available to deal with any queries and anomalies.
> >
> >
> > Ian Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chris Prince Udochukwu *Njọkụ*, Ph.D.
> > Computer Communications Centre
> > University of Nigeria, Nsukka 410001
> > @DrCPUNjoku
> >
> >  We mustn't remain with old ways of doing things,
> >
> > especially if they're not yielding optimum results.
> >
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