[governance] Fwd: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators
valentina hvale pellizzer
valentina at oneworldplatform.net
Fri Jan 19 09:49:29 EST 2018
Thanks for the memory, always useful to see the creation trough the
embodiment of the creators and since their gender were various and I
would argue beyond the binary why not to use a language that goes beyond
fathers and mothers. Communities are places of equals, affinity and
choice and I find it far more engaging
with love, respect and gratitude, hvale
On 01/19/2018 03:41 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
> >>>With other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF.
>
> Hmm... Even if it is "a lista" it's not a "mother", but a "father" of
> the internet...
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Deirdre Williams
> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> In light of the message from Bestbits that I just forwarded, and
> for the benefit of more recent subscribers to the Internet
> Governance Caucus, I think it is useful to remember how the IGC
> began, so I am forwarding a message sent earlier this month by
> Wolfgang to the more limited group of "friends of IGC" (for want
> of a better term) who were trying to retrieve the IGC space.
> Things change and evolve. For this to happen in a fair and
> balanced manner ALL of the voices need to be equally and actively
> involved.
> Deirdre
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"*
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
> <mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>>
> Date: 3 January 2018 at 14:08
> Subject: AW: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators
> To: Adam Peake <adam.peake at icann.org
> <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org>>, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com
> <mailto:kichango at gmail.com>>, Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu
> <mailto:vb at bertola.eu>>
> Cc: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>>, Deirdre Williams
> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>>,
> Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
> <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>>, Jeanette Hofmann
> <jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu <mailto:jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu>>, Jeremy
> Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>>, Akinremi
> Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>, Izumi AIZU
> <iza at anr.org <mailto:iza at anr.org>>, Jeanette Hofmann
> <jeanette at wzb.eu <mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>>, "Doria, Avri"
> <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>, Anriette Esterhuysen
> <anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>>, Ginger Paque
> <gpaque at gmail.com <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>>, Analia Aspis
> <analia.aspis at gmail.com <mailto:analia.aspis at gmail.com>>, Norbert
> Bollow <nb at bollow.ch <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>>, Parminder
> <parminder at itforchange.net <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>>, YJ
> Park <yjpark21 at gmail.com <mailto:yjpark21 at gmail.com>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the IGC was founded on February, 21, 2003, just after the end of
> workshop 3 (see attachment) . Some ot the partiicpants went to
> the Cafeteria in the ILO Building. At this time CS did not have a
> "strcuture" as a WSIS stakeholder group. Just two days before
> February 21, 2003, on Wednesday February 19th, there was another
> meeting in the ITU building where Alain and Louise Lassounde
> pushed for the formation of a CS WSIS bureau. Alain and Louise had
> the mandate from the inergovernmental WSIS bureau to organize CS
> participation in the WSIS process. For the formation of the CS
> breau they used a structure proposed by a working paper from an UN
> subcommittee which worked together with the Cardozo-Commission. In
> this paper there was a list with about a dozen groups which could
> be considered as "representatives of CS", which inlcuded trade
> unions, academic and philantropic institutions, local authorities,
> human rights groups and others. I became a member of the bureau on
> behalf of the "philantrpoic and academic institutions". At this
> moment, there was no CS plenary and no CS Content & Themes Group.
> Some working groups on media, education, human rights, gender
> existed. But there was nothing for IG. One of the main roles of
> the CS bureau was to organize sponsorship for CS participation in
> WSIS meetings. It was clear that the bureau, chaired by Renata
> Bloem from CONGO, had no role to play with rergard to substance.
> Substance was in the hands of the CS Plenary and CS C&T (with its
> WGs).
>
> Back to Friday, February 21st, 2003. I reported back from the
> first Bureau meeting and proposed to establish an own unit for IG
> (in the light of the discussion of the WS III). There was
> generally support. YJ introduced some additional ideas and we
> agreed to form not a CS IG working group but CS "IG Caucus". The
> inspiration for the name came from the US Congress which founded
> in 1996 a "Congressional Internet Caucus"
> (http://www.netcaucus.org/about/ <http://www.netcaucus.org/about/> )
>
> YJ and I (gender and geographical balance) were electd as
> co-chairs. Hans, Karen, Bill and others started immediately with
> drafting a first workplan and with the creation on an e-mail list
> (hosted by CPSR). With other words, Adams memory is correct. It
> needed less than four weeks to get started. The first real
> activities took place during the Paris Intersessional where we
> were well positioned and made statemens in Plenary sessions inter
> alia rejecting the idea of an intergovernmental Internet treaty
> but proposing a “Global Information Society Observation Council”
> which could serve as a meeting point for improved coordination,
> consultation and communication on ICT issues". This was the
> starting point for a discussion which - via the push of civil
> society members in the WGIG (Bill, Karen, Avri, Peng Hwa, Carlos
> etc.) in 2004 and 2005 finally ended in the creation of the IGF.
> With other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF.
>
> In Geneva in December 2003, YJ and I handed to co-chairmanship
> over to Jeanette and Adam.
>
> best wishes
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> The first email to governance at lists.cpsr.org
> <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org> I can find was sent on Mon, 31
> Mar 2003 12:17:09 -0800, from yjpark at myepark.com
> <mailto:yjpark at myepark.com> (thanks YJ :-))
>
> Hans was the connection to CPSR which hosted the first list, on
> 3/19/03 he said he'd set up a list. Karen Banks sent an email on
> 3/29/03 saying we were just about to announce the creation of a
> new [IG] list. 31 March looks like the probable start. Hans may
> have records, and I think it still at the same email address.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> From: Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com <mailto:kichango at gmail.com>>
> Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 16:57
> To: Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu <mailto:vb at bertola.eu>>
> Cc: Adam Peake <adam.peake at icann.org
> <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org>>, Arsène Tungali
> <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>>, Deirdre
> Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com
> <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>>, Ian Peter
> <ian.peter at ianpeter.com <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>>,
> "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
> <mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>>, Jeanette Hofmann
> <jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu <mailto:jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu>>, Jeremy
> Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>>, Akinremi
> Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
> <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>, Izumi AIZU
> <iza at anr.org <mailto:iza at anr.org>>, Jeanette Hofmann
> <jeanette at wzb.eu <mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>>, "Doria, Avri"
> <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>, Anriette Esterhuysen
> <anriette at apc.org <mailto:anriette at apc.org>>, Ginger Paque
> <gpaque at gmail.com <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>>, Analia Aspis
> <analia.aspis at gmail.com <mailto:analia.aspis at gmail.com>>, Norbert
> Bollow <nb at bollow.ch <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>>, Parminder
> <parminder at itforchange.net <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>>,
> "wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
> <mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>"
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
> <mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>>, YJ Park
> <yjpark21 at gmail.com <mailto:yjpark21 at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2018 14:37, "Vittorio Bertola" <vb at bertola.eu
> <mailto:vb at bertola.eu><mailto:vb at bertola.eu
> <mailto:vb at bertola.eu>>> wrote:
>
> Il 2018-01-03 14:42 Adam Peake ha scritto:
> Hi Arsene,
>
> Thanks for the email. Could you confirm if the mail archive has
> been lost or not?
>
> The archive is an important record of discussions about Internet
> governance, WSIS (WGIG and all that). Please let us know if the
> archive has been saved.
>
> I don't remember you reaching out, just a few emails to the list
> in March/April last year about migrating the list.
>
> I don't remember anything either, but in any case: if the
> server-side email archive has been lost, it could still be
> possible to rebuild it from people's archives. I, for example,
> keep in my mailbox all the email I received since September 2003,
> so I could quite easily share the (hopefully) complete list
> archive since that date (it's ~75.000 messages in Maildir format,
> 1.7GB uncompressed - I stopped reading it long ago, but unless I
> was silently unsubscribed I should still have received
> everything). I think that a decently skilled sysadmin could find a
> way to reinject those messages in the archives of whatever new
> listserver is installed. Maybe there are other people who have
> even older message sets (or I could have some older backups
> somewhere - when did the list actually start to function?).
>
> I believe the Caucus (thus, the IGC list) was created in 2003...
> unless it was in the late 2002.
> The first PrepComm was of the Africa region, somewhere in the
> second trimester of 2002, if my memory is correct. Then we had
> another regional one (Asia?) later that year. The thematic
> PrepComms got in full swing in 2003 (again possibly starting late
> 2002, speaking from the top of my head here) and from my
> recollection the Caucus was formed in the aftermath of the one
> that took place in Paris (UNESCO) back then.
>
> Adam or others could provide more references here or correct me.
>
> Mawaki
>
> Ciao
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