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<p>Thanks for the memory, always useful to see the creation trough
the embodiment of the creators and since their gender were various
and I would argue beyond the binary why not to use a language that
goes beyond fathers and mothers. Communities are places of equals,
affinity and choice and I find it far more engaging</p>
<p>with love, respect and gratitude, hvale<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/19/2018 03:41 PM, Renata Aquino
Ribeiro wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">>>>With
other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF.</span><br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Hmm... Even
if it is "a lista" it's not a "mother", but a "father" of
the internet...</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:26 AM,
Deirdre Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div class="gmail_quote">In light of the message from
Bestbits that I just forwarded, and for the benefit of
more recent subscribers to the Internet Governance
Caucus, I think it is useful to remember how the IGC
began, so I am forwarding a message sent earlier this
month by Wolfgang to the more limited group of "friends
of IGC" (for want of a better term) who were trying to
retrieve the IGC space.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Things change and evolve. For
this to happen in a fair and balanced manner ALL of the
voices need to be equally and actively involved.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Deirdre</div>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">"Kleinwächter,
Wolfgang"</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@<wbr>medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>></span><br>
Date: 3 January 2018 at 14:08<br>
Subject: AW: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators<br>
To: Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">adam.peake@icann.org</a>>,
Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kichango@gmail.com</a>>,
Vittorio Bertola <<a href="mailto:vb@bertola.eu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vb@bertola.eu</a>><br>
Cc: Arsène Tungali <<a
href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>>,
Deirdre Williams <<a
href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>>,
Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>,
"Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a
href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@<wbr>gmail.com</a>>,
Jeanette Hofmann <<a
href="mailto:jeanette.hofmann@wzb.eu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jeanette.hofmann@wzb.eu</a>>,
Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>,
Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a
href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a
href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>,
Izumi AIZU <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">iza@anr.org</a>>,
Jeanette Hofmann <<a href="mailto:jeanette@wzb.eu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jeanette@wzb.eu</a>>,
"Doria, Avri" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">avri@acm.org</a>>,
Anriette Esterhuysen <<a
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anriette@apc.org</a>>,
Ginger Paque <<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gpaque@gmail.com</a>>,
Analia Aspis <<a href="mailto:analia.aspis@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">analia.aspis@gmail.com</a>>,
Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nb@bollow.ch</a>>,
Parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>,
YJ Park <<a href="mailto:yjpark21@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjpark21@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
the IGC was founded on February, 21, 2003, just after
the end of workshop 3 (see attachment) . Some ot the
partiicpants went to the Cafeteria in the ILO Building.
At this time CS did not have a "strcuture" as a WSIS
stakeholder group. Just two days before February 21,
2003, on Wednesday February 19th, there was another
meeting in the ITU building where Alain and Louise
Lassounde pushed for the formation of a CS WSIS bureau.
Alain and Louise had the mandate from the
inergovernmental WSIS bureau to organize CS
participation in the WSIS process. For the formation of
the CS breau they used a structure proposed by a working
paper from an UN subcommittee which worked together with
the Cardozo-Commission. In this paper there was a list
with about a dozen groups which could be considered as
"representatives of CS", which inlcuded trade unions,
academic and philantropic institutions, local
authorities, human rights groups and others. I became a
member of the bureau on behalf of the "philantrpoic and
academic institutions". At this moment, there was no CS
plenary and no CS Content & Themes Group. Some
working groups on media, education, human rights, gender
existed. But there was nothing for IG. One of the main
roles of the CS bureau was to organize sponsorship for
CS participation in WSIS meetings. It was clear that the
bureau, chaired by Renata Bloem from CONGO, had no role
to play with rergard to substance. Substance was in the
hands of the CS Plenary and CS C&T (with its WGs).<br>
<br>
Back to Friday, February 21st, 2003. I reported back
from the first Bureau meeting and proposed to establish
an own unit for IG (in the light of the discussion of
the WS III). There was generally support. YJ introduced
some additional ideas and we agreed to form not a CS IG
working group but CS "IG Caucus". The inspiration for
the name came from the US Congress which founded in 1996
a "Congressional Internet Caucus" (<a
href="http://www.netcaucus.org/about/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.netcaucus.org/abo<wbr>ut/</a>
)<br>
<br>
YJ and I (gender and geographical balance) were electd
as co-chairs. Hans, Karen, Bill and others started
immediately with drafting a first workplan and with the
creation on an e-mail list (hosted by CPSR). With other
words, Adams memory is correct. It needed less than four
weeks to get started. The first real activities took
place during the Paris Intersessional where we were well
positioned and made statemens in Plenary sessions inter
alia rejecting the idea of an intergovernmental Internet
treaty but proposing a “Global Information Society
Observation Council” which could serve as a meeting
point for improved coordination, consultation and
communication on ICT issues". This was the starting
point for a discussion which - via the push of civil
society members in the WGIG (Bill, Karen, Avri, Peng
Hwa, Carlos etc.) in 2004 and 2005 finally ended in the
creation of the IGF. With other words, the IGC is the
real father of the IGF.<br>
<br>
In Geneva in December 2003, YJ and I handed to
co-chairmanship over to Jeanette and Adam.<br>
<br>
best wishes<br>
<br>
Wolfgang<br>
<span><br>
<br>
<br>
The first email to <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>
I can find was sent on Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:17:09
-0800, from <a href="mailto:yjpark@myepark.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjpark@myepark.com</a>
(thanks YJ :-))<br>
<br>
Hans was the connection to CPSR which hosted the first
list, on 3/19/03 he said he'd set up a list. Karen
Banks sent an email on 3/29/03 saying we were just
about to announce the creation of a new [IG] list. 31
March looks like the probable start. Hans may have
records, and I think it still at the same email
address.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Mawaki Chango <<a
href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">kichango@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 16:57<br>
To: Vittorio Bertola <<a
href="mailto:vb@bertola.eu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">vb@bertola.eu</a>><br>
Cc: Adam Peake <<a
href="mailto:adam.peake@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">adam.peake@icann.org</a>>,
Arsène Tungali <<a
href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>>,
Deirdre Williams <<a
href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>>,
Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>,
"Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a
href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gm<wbr>ail.com</a>>,
Jeanette Hofmann <<a
href="mailto:jeanette.hofmann@wzb.eu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jeanette.hofmann@wzb.eu</a>>,
Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>,
Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a
href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a
href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>,
Izumi AIZU <<a href="mailto:iza@anr.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">iza@anr.org</a>>,
Jeanette Hofmann <<a href="mailto:jeanette@wzb.eu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jeanette@wzb.eu</a>>,
"Doria, Avri" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">avri@acm.org</a>>,
Anriette Esterhuysen <<a
href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">anriette@apc.org</a>>,
Ginger Paque <<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gpaque@gmail.com</a>>,
Analia Aspis <<a
href="mailto:analia.aspis@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">analia.aspis@gmail.com</a>>,
Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nb@bollow.ch</a>>,
Parminder <<a
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>,
"<a
href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medien<wbr>komm.uni-halle.de</a>"
<<a
href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medien<wbr>komm.uni-halle.de</a>>,
YJ Park <<a href="mailto:yjpark21@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">yjpark21@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span>On Jan 3, 2018 14:37, "Vittorio Bertola"
<<a href="mailto:vb@bertola.eu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">vb@bertola.eu</a><mailto:<a
href="mailto:vb@bertola.eu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">vb@berto<wbr>la.eu</a>>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Il 2018-01-03 14:42 Adam Peake ha scritto:<br>
Hi Arsene,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the email. Could you confirm if the mail
archive has been lost or not?<br>
<br>
The archive is an important record of discussions
about Internet governance, WSIS (WGIG and all that).
Please let us know if the archive has been saved.<br>
<br>
I don't remember you reaching out, just a few emails
to the list in March/April last year about migrating
the list.<br>
<br>
I don't remember anything either, but in any case: if
the server-side email archive has been lost, it could
still be possible to rebuild it from people's
archives. I, for example, keep in my mailbox all the
email I received since September 2003, so I could
quite easily share the (hopefully) complete list
archive since that date (it's ~75.000 messages in
Maildir format, 1.7GB uncompressed - I stopped reading
it long ago, but unless I was silently unsubscribed I
should still have received everything). I think that a
decently skilled sysadmin could find a way to reinject
those messages in the archives of whatever new
listserver is installed. Maybe there are other people
who have even older message sets (or I could have some
older backups somewhere - when did the list actually
start to function?).<br>
<br>
I believe the Caucus (thus, the IGC list) was created
in 2003... unless it was in the late 2002.<br>
The first PrepComm was of the Africa region, somewhere
in the second trimester of 2002, if my memory is
correct. Then we had another regional one (Asia?)
later that year. The thematic PrepComms got in full
swing in 2003 (again possibly starting late 2002,
speaking from the top of my head here) and from my
recollection the Caucus was formed in the aftermath
of the one that took place in Paris (UNESCO) back
then.<br>
<br>
Adam or others could provide more references here or
correct me.<br>
<br>
Mawaki<br>
<br>
Ciao<br>
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