[governance] [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google calls for internationaldigital agreements

Ian Peter ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Sun Jul 2 09:12:31 EDT 2017


Agreed Wolfgang - definitely something to refer to. But both the Principles 
and the Roadmap 
(http://document.netmundial.br/2-roadmap-for-the-future-evolution-of-the-internet-governance/) 
point to the need for further work in this area. Apart from reaffirming 
process approaches outlined in Netmundial documents, is there anything else 
substantial we can offer as to how such further work (as suggested by 
Microsoft and Google) might be conducted and through any particular  forum?

Ian

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From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
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To: Ian Peter ; Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org
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Subject: AW: [governance] [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google calls for 
internationaldigital agreements

It is time to reaffirm the Sao Paulo Principles from 2014. Any 
(multistakeholder/onestakeholder) agreement has to be build on top of the 
Sao Paulo Declaration.

wolfgang



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internationaldigital agreements

Hi Parminder, I am copying this also to the IGC list:

Because I am wondering if there is widespread support for developing a civil 
society statement supporting these efforts, and urging the development of (a 
framework?) (a set of principles?) to deal with these issues?

Although Microsoft is approaching this more from cyberwarfare concerns, and 
Google more from lack of standards dealing with surveillance requests, there 
is a common ground here which relates to good governance which supports 
basic rights when dealing with requests for data for digital surveillance.

In my own mind I am sure there is a set of good principles/guidelines which 
could (and should) be developed which could cover both of these concerns, 
and I personally feel that we in civil society should be supporting and 
encouraging such developments: while at the same time helping to set the 
agenda for what might be appropriate developments.

GCCS2017 might be one event to move this forward: but in the mean time if we 
can develop a strong consensus statement welcoming further discussion and 
developments in this area, that might be a useful contribution.

But others might feel another approach might be more productive?


Ian Peter


From: parminder
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 6:13 PM
To: Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org
Subject: [JNC - Forum] After Microsoft now google calls for 
internationaldigital agreements

Microsoft recently called for a cyber geneva convention 
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/microsoft-right-need-digital-geneva-convention/


Now, Google has called for international agreement on legal access to data.


    "We need international agreements to lay out the rules of the road to 
deal with what is not a hypothetical problem," said Walker. "We are dealing 
with tens of thousands of these requests every year, and we're just one of 
the companies wrestling with this. We do need an international agreed upon 
framework to move forward in a reliable way that people can have confidence 
in.""

  https://www.cyberscoop.com/google-governments-update-international-data-laws/


  parminder








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