[governance] Serious Matters for ISOC

Thu Feb 2 19:37:49 EST 2017

Dear Nyangkwe,

i thank you very much for your clear statement and explanation. I was 
very horrified, when I read the emails of Janvier Ngnoulaye.

For our friends on the global ISOC list i have append the two mails from 
Janvier Ngnoulaye. The declarations from the IGF our friends can 
distribute it independent on the ISOC global list.

many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay

On 02/02/2017 07:26, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote:
> ISOC has achieved a lot of things for the internet society ( I do not need
> to mention them), thanks to the contribution of the  many eminent
> personalities that make that group. Such laudable achievement cannot be
> allowed to be smeared by egregious lie-telling from some members, be they
> those working pro-bono for ISOC.
>
> The story of “War against secessionists” peddled here by Janvier Gnoulaye
> goes on record as the fattest lie of 2017 and may be in history if we put
> aside George Bush's "arms of Mass destruction in Irak". Let me explain:
> since what is referred to officially in Cameroon as "the anglophone
> problem" started in October 2016. There has never been a single day that
> any government official has talked of war in the "Anglophone regions". I
> will advise our eminent members to google Camerooun: Communication du
> gouvernement sur le Problème Anglophone and see whether the government
> spokesman, Mr Issa Tchiroma Bakary (Minister of Communication) has ever
> used the word "war" even a single time.
>
> This now brings to question the credibility of he who heads ISOC Cameroon.
> Mr Janvier Gnoulaye (PHD) talks of an Assembly that took place and came out
> with that phrase. It will be better for ISOC to get him provide the minutes
> of that assembly including the scanned sheet of attendees. That will be the
> only way some of us can believe that ISOC takes Cameroon (a country to
> which I belong) seriously, not just the representation to increase numbers
> for a certain agenda. I am morally shattered here!
>
> We have seen the effect of war in Irak, Syria, Libya and even in Cameroon
> here against Boko Haram where a General and Colonel including two military
> officers of that war front died last week in a chopper crash. And if an
> ISOC Chapter President, talking in that capacity, declares that there is
> war when none exists, then that calls for serious questioning. ISOC’s
> credibility is at stake here if such serious matters are down looked upon.
> How can that be when one looks at the eminent personalities on and within
> ISOC?
>
> Cameroon’s chapter leadership needs serious questioning NOW!
>
> There must be a follow up after that letter
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Nyangkwe Agien
>

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the 
ISOC Cameroon Chapter?
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100
From: Janvier NGNOULAYE <jnoulaye at gmail.com>
To: Internet Governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Norbert Bollow 
<nb at bollow.ch>, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
CC: Dawit Bekele <bekele at isoc.org>, dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez 
<dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society 
<mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates 
<Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>

Dear Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki

I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. You are no more human rights
activist than we are, or even more open internet activist than we are 
in ISOC Cameroon Chapter.

We volunteer  each day to work to make the Internet as open and 
accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show 
out here on this platform  the actions and projects achieved so far. So 
you must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet 
to our population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I 
regret that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the 
matter.

I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and 
also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently
proposing. However, note that:

1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram,
2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have 
at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one 
knows by who they are supported and financed.
3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that,
there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big 
part of the population.
4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its
own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to
seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we 
think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used 
of the Internet technologies and policies.
5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will 
be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest  from your respective
offices.
6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28
January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes 
to you here.

So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal.

I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call 
to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to  keep 
trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to 
solve the issue.

Best regards.

Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D
ICT Teacher at the University
President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter.
Activist of "The Internet is for everyone"
http://www.internetsociety.cm/

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down 
the Internet !!!
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100
From: Janvier NGNOULAYE <jnoulaye at gmail.com>
To: Internet Governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, Renata Aquino 
Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun <deji at accessnow.org>, Arsène Tungali 
<arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>, 
<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>

Hi to all,

It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is 
very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, 
the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions.

These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The 
government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for 
suitable solutions.

Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of 
Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake 
of the entire population of these 2 regions.

Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending
this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster 
as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage 
the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace 
solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and 
Western Union services.

ISOC Cameroon Chapter
President

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