[governance] Article on national sovereignty and communications in Indian Magazine Diplomatist

[Barry Shein]

We might just as well use the ISO 7-layer model to talk about this,
no?

Nonetheless I can imagine a view by AT&T et al that the internet is
largely just another layered service to them (and others), like E911
or various multi-drop private branch exchange systems.

        -Barry Shein

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On January 13, 2015 at 00:11 daj at daj.dj (daj) wrote:
 > At 19:50 12/01/2015, Barry Shein wrote:
 > >Reading the article what strikes me is: How is the internet different,
 > >fundamentally, from the voice or sms telephone 
 > >networks (which most ofthe internet travels on), 
 > >or postal and package carriers, as a few
 > >examples which come to mind?
 > 
 > Dear Barry,
 > 
 > this is very interesting question as it shows 
 > that what is of main interest in the internet 
 > phenomena and its governance is not the network 
 > but the digital nature of a global pervasiveness 
 > (like radio, money, etc.). The network aspects are at three strata:
 > 
 > - lower catenet layers: the layers shared with other networks, like telephone.
 > - middle layers (end to end protocols) that are 
 > specific to technologies (like the internet, 
 > Myrinet, Ethernet, Infiniband, NDN, etc.).
 > - fringe to fringe upper-layers extended services 
 > (like security, authentication, IA, µpayment, etc. etc)
 > 
 > The lower layer is locally oriented (states). The 
 > fringe to fringe layer is at individually 
 > orientfed (civil society, Free/Libre). The end to 
 > end layer is commercially managed i.e. depending on markets (cf. RFC 6852).
 > 
 > jfc
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > >They're all indepedent systems interconnected by some agreement of
 > >protocols. For example sharing of undersea cables or
 > >recognition of postage.
 > >
 > >Something which does distinguish them is that there seems to be much
 > >less concern about regulating the content of these other
 > >networks. Generally just customs, import/export regulation, and of
 > >course any overt criminal content in all cases.
 > >
 > >So we are led to a paradox raised implicitly by the article:
 > >
 > >The internet is different because it resists regulation of its content
 > >by any centralized, typically sovereign, actors. This is because its
 > >control is distributed in super-sovereign or extra-sovereign patterns.
 > >
 > >Yet it is the internet's very identifiable control points such as the
 > >DNS system's single root-structured (in practice, not in theory)
 > >management which causes us to worry about control and who shall
 > >administer that control.
 > >
 > >So, it is distributed and independent of sovereign control, except
 > >when it isn't?
 > >
 > >I think this can be repaired with a prefix of "we would prefer it
 > >were..."  rather than trying to create this illusion that there is
 > >anything inherent in the internet which resists control, any more than
 > >my first examples, voice networks etc.
 > >
 > >--
 > >         -Barry Shein
 > >
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