[governance] Chairs statement from GCCS

Wed Apr 22 19:04:25 EDT 2015

Michael,

So are non-binding the thousands of "resolutions" produced by UN bodies.
Even the WSIS documents are non binding.

And I hope you will agree that most of them are as much ignoring (very
often more even than the GCCS statement) some key issues civil society
legitimately cares about. All without any contribution from civil society
either.

So two questions:
1) Are non-binding incomplete documents useless in your view - wherever
they come from - or do they contribute somewhat to the ongoing discussion?
Faulty and insufficient efforts but at least efforts.
2) I still fail to grasp what is the model you would like to see
implemented. Are there examples of processes you would like to point as
reference to emulate?

I did not participate in the drafting of the GCCS a declaration but I know
that some CS actors have sincerely tried to contribute and influence.
Nothing is ever perfect and pointing to missing parts as you and some of
them do is a perfectly valid procedure, IMHO.

Hope it moves the discussion.

Best

Bertrand

On Monday, April 20, 2015, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> But surely that is the point of my blogpost
> <https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2015/04/19/another-example-of-multistakeholder-governance-in-action-the-global-cyberspace-15-unicorn/>
> Milton… Of course, the GCCS Chairman’s report isn’t “binding”, but nor is
> the NM Outcome document with which the Chairman’s report so closely
> associates itself; and read this below as but one example (from ISOC) among
> an avalanche of others of the ascribed status of this “Multistakeholder”
> document of unknown legitimacy, questionable accountability and no evident
> representivity.
>
>
>
> *Panel on Global Internet Cooperation and Governance Mechanisms*
>
> *http://internetgovernancepanel.org <http://internetgovernancepanel.org>*
>
> *| MAY 2014*
>
>
>
> *I.              **Foundational principles enabling more collaborative
> internet governance*
>
>
>
> *The Panel recognizes, fully supports, and adopts the IG Principles
> produced *
>
> *in the NETmundial Statement, which “identified a set of common principles
> *
>
> *and important values that contribute to an inclusive, multistakeholder,
> effective, *
>
> *legitimate, and evolving IG framework and recognized that the Internet is
> a global *
>
> *resource which should be managed in the public interest” (see Annex 1).
> These *
>
> *NETmundial Principles are fundamental for the operationalization of a
> 21st century, *
>
> *collaborative framework of governance for a unified Internet that is
> unfragmented, *
>
> *interconnected, interoperable, secure, stable, resilient, sustainable,
> and trust *
>
> *building.*
>
>
>
> Either “unicorns” such as the GCCS (or the NetMundial) have status and
> thus should be held publicly accountable to some standards of determining
> legitimacy, accountability, transparency, representivity; or they have no
> status and thus their outcomes should be treated as merely PR statements
> (Press releases/public relations outputs) with no significance or
> legitimacy beyond the opinions of the selected few who have been involved
> in issuing them.
>
>
>
> Clearly they can’t be both and the studied ambiguity of switching from one
> status to the other depending on the intended audience is both fraudulent
> and dangerous.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org');>
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Milton L Mueller
> *Sent:* April 19, 2015 1:55 PM
> *To:* 'governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance at lists.igcaucus.org');>'; 'Ian
> Peter'; 'bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bestbits at lists.bestbits.net');>'; '
> forum at justnetcoalition.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','forum at justnetcoalition.org');>'
> *Subject:* RE: [governance] Chairs statement from GCCS
>
>
>
> I was offered a chance to comment on a draft of the Chair’s statement. I
> have no idea how many others were, but I am sure I was part of some much
> larger list.
>
> I note with satisfaction that certain language about the “abuse” of free
> expression rights, which I objected to, was corrected in the final
> statement.
>
>
>
> I note that other items I didn’t like were not changed, and that some
> aspects related to state surveillance may have been weakened (though it is
> hard to tell because I can’t find the original doc).
>
>
>
> In that respect, the Chair’s statement is typical of a MS gathering; you
> get some of what you want and you don’t get other things. It reflects the
> lowest common denominator of what the collection of folks in the meeting
> could agree to, or what the Chair thought they could agree to.
>
>
>
> The Netmundial statement adopted a far more bottom up and open methodology
> in its development, and thus has greater political significance and
> legitimacy in my opinion, so it would be a mistake to equate the two. But
> in terms of “official” status, neither of them are binding, and in some
> sense both are just statements competing for attention in the increasingly
> crowded bazaar of Internet governance related statements.
>
>
>
> Milton L. Mueller
>
> Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
>
> Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>
> http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/mueller/Home.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org');> [
> mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Peter
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2015 8:38 AM
> *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','governance at lists.igcaucus.org');>;
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bestbits at lists.bestbits.net');>;
> forum at justnetcoalition.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','forum at justnetcoalition.org');>
> *Subject:* [governance] Chairs statement from GCCS
>
>
>
> The Chairs statement from this conference is now released at
> https://www.gccs2015.com/sites/default/files/documents/Chairs%20Statement%20GCCS2015%20-%2017%20April.pdf
>
>
>
> CS people are now working on a response and final call at the unconference
> and this will (probably) be released later today. It will include
> disappointment at the non inclusion of references to necessary and
> proportionate principles, NetMundial principles, and the lack of reference
> to mass surveillance. Huge gaps, but we have also had some wins, eg
> inclusion of privacy by design, and quotes like this
>
>
>
>
>
> “The Conference emphasised that our commitment to the protection of human
> rights must be unequivocal and that the protection of human rights and
> security online are complementary concepts. We must remain vigilant about
> those who use the Internet for incitement to (imminent) violence, and for
> the recruitment for or financing of terrorism, and ensure that such
> violations are countered within the framework of the rule of law without
> allowing ourselves to be governed by a climate of fear. We must also take
> full account of the need to protect the security and integrity of people,
> as well as their personal information, networks and devices, in ways that
> are fully compliant with international law, including human rights law.”
>
>
>
> I’m sure others will have things to report from this event and there will
> be more later.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian Peter
>

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