[governance] Re: [JNC - Forum] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh at hserus.net
Wed Oct 29 09:24:49 EDT 2014
Ah. Puppet CS. An interesting notion, that.
Along with that, +1 to all that you said.
--srs (iPad)
> On 29-Oct-2014, at 16:36, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 29.10.14 06:41, parminder wrote:
>> Developing countries, including India, have for decades been crying
>> hoarse, pleading, 'please, become more fair and democratic...'. Such
>> appeals get the most humiliating responses - from a stony silence, to,
>> well, 'we made the Internet, and so have some regard and patience'.
>
> First, let me repeat, that the Internet is different.
>
> But if it was not, and the Internet was indeed the "natural resource
> (within their borders)" that most Governments imagine it is, here is a
> nice scenario:
>
> India to Kuwait: Folks, you sit on a huge amount of oil. You don't need
> that much 'please, become more fair and democratic...' ... and give some
> of it to us, for free. So that we can have a piece of that resource too.
>
> Kuwait to India: go away, it is ours.
>
> (eventually Kuwait gets invaded by a less polite, but better armed third
> party, that too, wants their deserved share of Kuwait's oil. India
> starts asking the same question the new governor... or not?)
>
> Back to Internet. The IPv4 allocation process is part of it's
> distributed trust architecture. The Internet is designed after human
> society communication model and it has no single point of failure. From
> this follows, it has no single point or chain of command. Internet is a
> very complex graph of relationships.
>
> Thing is, Internet was and is being built by everyone. Fortunately, that
> is *not* governments. So in essence, the Internet is being built by
> individuals (sometimes using their corporate heavy weight) from all
> around the world, including India. As with anything that is done by
> people, governments want their share. They want to control it, so that
> they get to decide who participates and who does not -- and execute
> various punishments, such as the "Three Strike" excommunication laws in
> some countries. They also want to tax it.
>
> Thing is, because *most* (or all) governments are not democratic, no
> matter what they claim, they do not know how to do it properly. This is
> why, every government out there wants total control over the whole
> thing. They will experiment with every possible venue, from the UN, ITU,
> GAC, puppet CS, science, tech etc representatives.
>
> This is going to ultimately fail, until a global government is formed,
> that might eventually seize control of the Internet. Many prophesy books
> claim this will happen, some day. But this day is not today.
>
> Daniel
>
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