[governance] Seven big U.S. companies paid CEOs more than they pain in tax in 2013: study

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

The feeling is mutual, I am sure.


On November 20, 2014 2:20:51 PM Jean-Christophe Nothias 
<jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:

> Love you Suresh!
> ;-)
>
> Le 20 nov. 2014 à 09:48, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>
> > I am sorry but your so called  standards I can see so far are not 
> democracy. They are mere demagoguery, with perhaps a distaste for the usa 
> thrown in for free.
> > On November 20, 2014 2:08:34 PM Jean-Christophe Nothias 
> <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> McTim,
> >>
> >> Sorry for I do not have much time to lose with your assumptions turned 
> into facts. In particular with someone maintaining that Democracy is 
> responsible for the Corporations' behavior regarding their tax duties. This 
> is insane and a dangerous thinking. I will always fight such non sense. And 
> if the code of conduct of any list comes to the conclusion that this is 
> unacceptable attitude I am happy to leave. Probably I might be joined in my 
> departure by anyone using the terminology "dick" against any other participant.
> >>
> >> After all, these lists belongs to what we should understand as part of 
> the agora (see that public square at the bottom of the Acropolis). In our 
> European culture, freedom of expression has some limitation (holocaust, 
> nazism...) and I am most happy with it. In the US, even in beautiful 
> Minnesota, things seem to be rather different where anything can be said 
> whatever it is. So even though this is just "agora talk", I feel that 
> denouncing Democracy, moreover its representative model, on no evidence is 
> part of the legitimizing process to outplay democracy. And if I do 
> understand well, Democracy seems to be a danger to the open and unified 
> Internet where the last thing people want is some public policy regulations.
> >>
> >> I suggest you reflect on the name of your grouping, with all due respect 
> to cornfields and farmers. Also to provide us with some serious sources and 
> backgrounds (links) about these facts you believe are real.
> >>
> >> JC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not mind to face any code of conduct of any list. And to be clear I 
> put my democratic standards at a much higher rank of respect. I would also 
> be amused to
> >> Le 19 nov. 2014 à 23:01, McTim a écrit :
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jean-Christophe Nothias 
> <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Democracy being the mother of all Corps sins!
> >>>
> >>> I never said anything like that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You are scarring us all McTim
> >>>
> >>> Greedy corps looking for more dividends is the first reason, and they 
> pay their fiscal advisor to go get these dirty money (avoidance of tax)
> >>> The absence of transnational fiscal regulation and convergence is 
> responsible #2
> >>>
> >>> and representative democracy gave us both of the above. Just sayin'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Such statement is part of what legitimize the abuse of power by the 
> power. Who's the simple citizen from any country able to pay for a legal 
> firm or fiscal advisor to avoid tax?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I never made any such statement.  I am merely stating facts.  MG was 
> complaining about big corporations dodging taxes and trying to couple that 
> with WEF/NMI.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> McTim, you are ready to join Kadirov and Putin during their next 
> dinner. This type of comment is what one can hear during such meeting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I doubt that they state facts plainly and clearly without resorting to 
> hyperbole, which is what I did.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations!
> >>> JC
> >>> (At least we know you are no democrat)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am both a small d democrat and a large D Democrat (I am actually from 
> Minnesota and our Democratic party is called the Democratic Farmer Labor 
> party).
> >>>
> >>> We do have a code of Conduct on this list, I would encourage you to 
> read it before you are sanctioned.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> McTim
> >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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> >>> --
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> McTim
> >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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