[governance] Seven big U.S. companies paid CEOs more than they pain in tax in 2013: study

[McTim]

You are correct, I just "assumed" that the USA and Europe are made up of
representative democracies.

It is not at all a fact.

#insanity

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jean-Christophe Nothias <
jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:

> McTim,
>
> Sorry for I do not have much time to lose with your assumptions turned
> into facts. In particular with someone maintaining that Democracy is
> responsible for the Corporations' behavior regarding their tax duties. This
> is insane and a dangerous thinking. I will always fight such non sense. And
> if the code of conduct of any list comes to the conclusion that this is
> unacceptable attitude I am happy to leave. Probably I might be joined in my
> departure by anyone using the terminology "dick" against any other
> participant.
>
> After all, these lists belongs to what we should understand as part of the
> agora (see that public square at the bottom of the Acropolis). In our
> European culture, freedom of expression has some limitation (holocaust,
> nazism...) and I am most happy with it. In the US, even in beautiful
> Minnesota, things seem to be rather different where anything can be said
> whatever it is. So even though this is just "agora talk", I feel that
> denouncing Democracy, moreover its representative model, on no evidence is
> part of the legitimizing process to outplay democracy. And if I do
> understand well, Democracy seems to be a danger to the open and unified
> Internet where the last thing people want is some public policy regulations.
>
> I suggest you reflect on the name of your grouping, with all due respect
> to cornfields and farmers. Also to provide us with some serious sources and
> backgrounds (links) about these facts you believe are real.
>
> JC
>
>
>
> I do not mind to face any code of conduct of any list. And to be clear I
> put my democratic standards at a much higher rank of respect. I would also
> be amused to
> Le 19 nov. 2014 à 23:01, McTim a écrit :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jean-Christophe Nothias <
> jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Democracy being the mother of all Corps sins!
>>
>
> I never said anything like that.
>
>
>
>> You are scarring us all McTim
>>
>> Greedy corps looking for more dividends is the first reason, and they pay
>> their fiscal advisor to go get these dirty money (avoidance of tax)
>> The absence of transnational fiscal regulation and convergence is
>> responsible #2
>>
>
> and representative democracy gave us both of the above. Just sayin'
>
>
>
>>
>> Such statement is part of what legitimize the abuse of power by the
>> power. Who's the simple citizen from any country able to pay for a legal
>> firm or fiscal advisor to avoid tax?
>>
>
>
> I never made any such statement.  I am merely stating facts.  MG was
> complaining about big corporations dodging taxes and trying to couple that
> with WEF/NMI.
>
>
>
>>
>> McTim, you are ready to join Kadirov and Putin during their next dinner.
>> This type of comment is what one can hear during such meeting.
>>
>
>
> I doubt that they state facts plainly and clearly without resorting to
> hyperbole, which is what I did.
>
>
>
>>
>> Congratulations!
>> JC
>> (At least we know you are no democrat)
>>
>
>
> I am both a small d democrat and a large D Democrat (I am actually from
> Minnesota and our Democratic party is called the Democratic Farmer Labor
> party).
>
> We do have a code of Conduct on this list, I would encourage you to read
> it before you are sanctioned.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
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>
> McTim
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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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