[governance] Seven big U.S. companies paid CEOs more than they pain in tax in 2013: study

Jean-Christophe Nothias jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 03:50:46 EST 2014


Love you Suresh!
;-)

Le 20 nov. 2014 à 09:48, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :

> I am sorry but your so called  standards I can see so far are not democracy. They are mere demagoguery, with perhaps a distaste for the usa thrown in for free. 
> On November 20, 2014 2:08:34 PM Jean-Christophe Nothias <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> McTim,
>> 
>> Sorry for I do not have much time to lose with your assumptions turned into facts. In particular with someone maintaining that Democracy is responsible for the Corporations' behavior regarding their tax duties. This is insane and a dangerous thinking. I will always fight such non sense. And if the code of conduct of any list comes to the conclusion that this is unacceptable attitude I am happy to leave. Probably I might be joined in my departure by anyone using the terminology "dick" against any other participant.
>> 
>> After all, these lists belongs to what we should understand as part of the agora (see that public square at the bottom of the Acropolis). In our European culture, freedom of expression has some limitation (holocaust, nazism...) and I am most happy with it. In the US, even in beautiful Minnesota, things seem to be rather different where anything can be said whatever it is. So even though this is just "agora talk", I feel that denouncing Democracy, moreover its representative model, on no evidence is part of the legitimizing process to outplay democracy. And if I do understand well, Democracy seems to be a danger to the open and unified Internet where the last thing people want is some public policy regulations.
>> 
>> I suggest you reflect on the name of your grouping, with all due respect to cornfields and farmers. Also to provide us with some serious sources and backgrounds (links) about these facts you believe are real.
>> 
>> JC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do not mind to face any code of conduct of any list. And to be clear I put my democratic standards at a much higher rank of respect. I would also be amused to 
>> Le 19 nov. 2014 à 23:01, McTim a écrit :
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Jean-Christophe Nothias <jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Democracy being the mother of all Corps sins!
>>> 
>>> I never said anything like that.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> You are scarring us all McTim
>>> 
>>> Greedy corps looking for more dividends is the first reason, and they pay their fiscal advisor to go get these dirty money (avoidance of tax)
>>> The absence of transnational fiscal regulation and convergence is responsible #2
>>> 
>>> and representative democracy gave us both of the above. Just sayin'
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Such statement is part of what legitimize the abuse of power by the power. Who's the simple citizen from any country able to pay for a legal firm or fiscal advisor to avoid tax?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I never made any such statement.  I am merely stating facts.  MG was complaining about big corporations dodging taxes and trying to couple that with WEF/NMI.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> McTim, you are ready to join Kadirov and Putin during their next dinner. This type of comment is what one can hear during such meeting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I doubt that they state facts plainly and clearly without resorting to hyperbole, which is what I did.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Congratulations!
>>> JC
>>> (At least we know you are no democrat)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am both a small d democrat and a large D Democrat (I am actually from Minnesota and our Democratic party is called the Democratic Farmer Labor party).
>>> 
>>> We do have a code of Conduct on this list, I would encourage you to read it before you are sanctioned.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> McTim
>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> McTim
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