[governance] Information of general interest: arret cour européenne Luxembourg, Spanish DPA against Google

Thu May 15 19:47:29 EDT 2014

Hi

> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Lorena Jaume-Palasi <
> lorena at collaboratory.de> wrote:
>
>> Imho you haven't read the court's decision until the end, Norbert:
>> (81) "However, inasmuch as the removal of links from the list of results
>> could, depending on the information at issue, have effects upon the
>> legitimate interest of internet users potentially interested in having
>> access to that information, in situations such as that at issue in the main
>> proceedings a fair balance should be sought in particular between that
>> interest and the data subject’s fundamental rights under Articles 7 and 8
>> of the Charter. Whilst it is true that the data subject’s rights
>> protected by those articles also override, as a general rule, that interest
>> of internet users"
>>
>
>
>> Traduced into non-juridical English: the right to privacy and data
>> protection (Art. 7&8) OVERRIDE AS A GENERAL RULE, the interest of internet
>> users (Art. 11)
>>
>
> It is problematic to just take one phrase and generalize it. That's not
> how interpretation of judgments works. The wording "that interest" refers
> to the previously mentioend "legitimate interest of internet users
> potentially interested in having access to that information, in situations
> such as that at issue in the main proceedings". This clearly shows that the
> 'override' only applies in very specific situations.
>
> Note the reference to "in situations such as that at issue in the main
> proceedings". The judgment is of very limited actual reach.
>
> "as a general rule" is a very concrete juridical indication - and it
applies to all search engines. You are right, when you say that it is
overall undertermined: I also see it like that and it does thus leave the
door open for misuse.


> Also, Mr. Costeja Gonzalez should have remembered the case of Barbra
> Streisand and her Malibu home. Now the links to the judgement are here to
> stay. Seeking to delete information online usually has a boomerang effect.
> Therefore, lawyers should tell their clients to resist pressing such
> claims. It's usually, if at all, a Pyrrhic victory.
>
> A Pyrrhic victory, indeed. :(

Kind regards,
Lorena

> Kind regards
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Now THAT is not a balance, but a hierarchy.
>> Best,
>> Lorena
>>
>> 2014-05-15 11:07 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>:
>>
>>>  Lorena Jaume-Palasi <lorena at collaboratory.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The court has stated a precedent and the balance it makes is based
>>> > on the assumption, the right to privacy is higher ranked. It does not
>>> > assume that both rights are equal and that there needs a balance.
>>>
>>> You're IMO mis-reading the judgment.
>>>
>>> Let's be specific.
>>>
>>> The court says that in regard to facts about a person's personal life
>>> that are (at a given time) not of significant public interest and which
>>> the person does not wish to be immediately found by means of a Google
>>> search for their name, the right to privacy is higher ranked than the
>>> economic interest of Google (of course, since economic interests
>>> and rights of corporations are by definition ranked lower than human
>>> rights) and the rights of the public to access information (which are
>>> a logical consequence of a human right, so that is a serious point.)
>>>
>>> The court also explicitly says, as the final sentence of the ruling:
>>> “However, that would not be the case if it appeared, for particular
>>> reasons, such as the role played by the data subject in public life,
>>> that the interference with his fundamental rights is justified by the
>>> preponderant interest of the general public in having, on account of
>>> its inclusion in the list of results, access to the information in
>>> question.”
>>>
>>> There you have it, depending on the circumstances (the particular legal
>>> implementation in EU law of) one or the other human right is to be the
>>> determining factor.
>>>
>>> The scope of application of (the particular legal implementation in EU
>>> law of) of one human right is determined by (the particular legal
>>> implementation in EU law of) the other human right, and vice versa.
>>>
>>> One human right balanced by the other.
>>>
>>> Just like things should be.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
>>>
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