[governance] PINGO
Norbert Bollow
nb at bollow.ch
Tue May 13 04:05:55 EDT 2014
Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
<wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> I can not find in the transcripts any statement - with the exception
> of the four governments I mentioned in my article - which expressed
> formal reservations against the document.
In
http://netmundial.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NETMundial-23April2014-Closing-Session-en.pdf
you can find the following statement:
"""
NIELS TEN OEVER:
We would like to thank the Brazilian government for
organizing the global multistakeholder meeting on the future of
Internet governance. We, as a diverse group of civil society
organizations from around the world, appreciate having been
part of the process. However, we are disappointed because the
outcome document fails to adequately reflect a number of our key
concerns.
The lack of acknowledgment of net neutrality at NETmundial is
deeply disappointing. Mass surveillance has not been
sufficiently denounced as being inconsistent with human rights
and the principle of proportionality.
And although the addition of language on Internet intermediary
liability is welcomed, the final text fails to ensure due process
safeguards which could undermine the rights to freedom of
expression and right to privacy.
We feel that this document has not sufficiently moved us
beyond a status quo in terms of the protection of fundamental
rights and the balancing of power and influence of different
stakeholder groups. Thank you.
"""
Greetings,
Norbert
I know that a number of
> civil society organisations and also other stakeholders from the
> private sector, governments and technical community were not
> satisfied with parts of the document. But to be "not satisfied" is
> different from "formal reservations/opposition". In a
> multistakeholder process it is more or less unavoidable that "nobody
> is satisfied". To reach rough consensus means that there are many
> parties which did not get what they wanted. Otherwise it would be
> "full consensus". And it was very obvious that there was no full
> consensus for the NetMundial outcome document. Nevertheless, the Sao
> Paulo declaration has a special meaning. Basic elements - as the
> principles which are very balanced and represent to a high degree
> civil society values - got the support of the majority of all present
> stakeholders. This is, as I said, remarkable and new, compared to the
> previous documents which were limited in scope and support. The
> "limitations" are also relevant for the very interesting document
> adopted by the Council of the European Union (this is not the EU
> Commission and also not the Council of Europe). This is a document
> supported by the 27 member states of the EU. I have my doubts,
> whether the 193+ governments of the UN member states would support
> this document. Net Mundial was not the end of the discussion, in
> particular with regard to the Roadmap. It is very good that we get
> now more input into a the roadmap process which will lead us into the
> year 2020 and beyond. And the new EU council paper is a very
> substantial input. As a European I would be happy if governments from
> non-European countries would take this document as inspiration. I
> also recommend, that non-governmental stakeholders take this EU
> Council document as a serious contribution, in particular with regard
> to the respect for human rights. BTW, all EU member states are also
> members of the OECD and do also support the OECD Principles for
> Internet Policy making, which were opposed by CISAC (at least two
> principles). If you compare the two questionable OECD principles with
> Net Mundial than NetMundial looks much better from a civil society
> perspective. Best wishes wolfgang
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von parminder
> Gesendet: Mo 12.05.2014 17:32
> An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Betreff: Re: [governance] PINGO
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday 11 May 2014 02:12 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > here is my view how to deal with the section on Internet Principles
> > of the NetMundial Sai Paulo Declaration.
> > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140510_pingo_net_mundial_adopts_principles_on_internet_governance/
>
> To quote your paper
>
> "And this document is supported by the majority of governments, by the
> most recognized and respected leaders from the private sector, the
> gurus of the technical community and a broad range of civil society
> organizations."
>
> Wolfgang, can you show evidence to the effect that NetMundial document
> is supported by a majority of world's governments. This is apart from
> the fact that a very large number of civil society organisations
> present at NetMundial opposed the outcome document, and I can tell
> you, an even greater number outside oppose it.
>
> parminder
>
> >
> > wolfgang
> >
>
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